And the xG on the Sunderland goal would have been next to nothing, reflecting just how exceptional it was.
I'm talking about possession, shots and XG's. The point is, they really don't matter. There's only one stat that matters. Surely that isn't difficult to understand. I'll give up. Waste of my day arguing something that should be so obvious.
Fair enough, can’t sack him on his birthday. Happy Birthday Tim. I hope you get a good performance and result for your birthday, sincerely.
Sporting had more xG but I would expect that with the penalties they had FWIW, xG is a great stat at telling a story of a season or a long period of games. In individual games it can be skewed due to anomalies
But you didn't quote xG, you quoted possession and shots. One of which suggested an absolute battering, then tried to suggest the stats you quoted didn't suggest a battering, I guess because possession was pretty close to 50/50. All I said was it was weird stats to pick out and a weird game to try to prove your point. There's plenty of games where xG doesn't reflect the final score you could have picked and you picked one where one side had over 5 xG.
You’re not wrong that there is only one stat that matters and that’s the scoreline. Think what some of us are hoping is that a lot of the underlying stats indicate we aren’t as bad as the league table shows right now and that eventually the chances we create should start going in. We’ve made that assertion off the eye test as well as most on here have said that the past 3 games there’s every chance we could’ve been 3-0 up before the opposition have scored especially Oxford and Pompey. The stats also back this up.
Absolutely agree. There's a heap of games where sides win with much less xG, or with a heavily weighted xG against the actual score, so it was funny that GFAW picked a game that actually really closely aligned between xG and the result to try to tell people that xG doesn't tell the true story.
The major worry is. Birmingham last year should’ve by all accounts been 11th based off xG but got relegated. There are weird outliers and underperformers but a look at last years xG table shows most teams finish where they should’ve We ranked 9th and finished 7th for example
Are people really still arguing about XG,it's a pointless statistic thats not really used for anyone actually inside clubs but just gives people like SKY and Syd things to talk about
Maybe not inside clubs you're associated with but most serious clubs do look at it as an indicator. I barely ever talk about it or cite it other than to clarify for people who don't understand it what it actually is, but hey ho gotta throw a personal dig in there otherwise it's not a Howden post.
I know you’ve got an inside track with city and the like but surely some data analysts are using it as a metric for some analysis. I’ll agree it has it flaws though
Saw a brief clip of the Gary Neville keano chat on f book Wrighty said when he was at palace Steve coppell whole philosophy was to feed wrighty and brighty He’d bollck them if they crossed to someone else!! They were also saying some teams are now dispensing with the slow slow slow build up play
Here's an article with Tuchel citing it, also references Hassenhutel and other PL managers citing it. https://www.skysports.com/football/...how-to-stop-individual-errors-costing-chelsea While those managers are no longer at their clubs, I can't imagine the clubs have sacked it off as a concept. Even Mr "Woke Nonsense" himself Dyche cited it last season by the looks of things: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesn...s-expected-goals-for-the-2324-premier-league/ But sure, no clubs look at it.
Xg is no more pointless than shots on target Its just a more in depth shot analysis No more no less It can give a good indication of your teams ability to break a defensive line over a period of games
Personally, I find it mind-numbingly tedious and have never paid any attention to it, but I know the bookies use it to set their odds, so they clearly think it's a useful statistic.
Every stat and every observation in isolation will have its flaws and everything within the game is only useful within the right context. But that's not to say if a stat doesn't tell the full story then it's automatically useless.
I think football will cycle back to more direct play especially in England. Given how high some teams set up their back line you’re daft not to.
