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Walter Out
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Yeah but what was the result in the corresponding fixture last year?
There’s a lot more goes into a house than just bricks
No but Rosenior was manager last season and even when Allsop was having a bad spell he never gave Pandur any opportunity of a game,obviously Allsop was the favourite of Rosenior.Bloody Rosenior forcing us to sign loan keepers 3 months after he's gone the **** him.
Allsop is ****e.
I see he’s not even managed a single appearance for a ****ing League 1 club yet
It’s criminal how many games he played here last season, probably the #1 reason that cost Rosey his job, and us a play off spot.
I saw him push an old lady over in St Stephen’s onceAllsop is ****e.
I see he’s not even managed a single appearance for a ****ing League 1 club yet
It’s criminal how many games he played here last season, probably the #1 reason that cost Rosey his job, and us a play off spot.
Don’t believe you, his wrists would have just folded back.
True fact
He ran over all flappy like he was coming for a cross with his eyes shut just like he did at the mkm
Shoved her from behind the bottless ****
We were also in the run in for a play off place and if he'd brought Pandur in and he'd behaved as he did during pre-season Rosenior would have had pelters.
No tesco
Nowhere else to put this but this shows we’ve not been that bad. We’ve been at about a midtable level. Appreciate it doesn’t reflect the whole story but a good measure of the season so far
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It helps that we scored 3 in a single game to bring that average up. We've still only scored 0.8 goals a game but conceded 1.2.
If you want to be kind about what we've seen so far, Walter's style seems to account for conceding goals. As others have mentioned before, his style wants the other team to attack as it helps his team create space and outnumber the opponent players in their defensive third, hopefully scoring as a result. However, in some of the games we've played, we've been easily undone by teams getting compact and sitting deep.
Considering Acun hired Walter for his different style of attacking football, I don't think there are that many differences between his and Rosenior's styles. Both systems rely on the opposition pressing or committing players forward to allow space and a numerical advantage to be created elsewhere on the pitch, it's how they tempt teams that seems to differ. Rosenior's style invited a press through passing at the back, but if teams stayed resolute and resisted temptation, it didn't work. They'd take a drawer and move on. It feels as though Walter's style wants teams to think that committing players forward will genuinely lead to an easy goal, making it harder to resist pushing players upfield. If you look at Hamburger SV in 22/23, they conceded 1.3 goals a game, but they scored an average of 2. We still have some way to go to get up to what is needed for his style to be productive, as it's very unlikely he'll change to a more pragmatic defensive approach. If he did, we'd end up with Roseyball 2.0.
The signs for this season are getting brighter than they were though, so that's a good start.
I suppose that's were the weighted element of it comes in. In the Stoke game we scored 3 but that came from an xG of about 1.9 (about 1 of which will have come from the penalty and subsequent rebound)
It's the second game we've outperformed our xG the first being Plymouth so we have been due.
We’ve also seen Sheff U massively outperform theirs so it’s all skewed really. For where the squad is at, the underlying numbers are decent.
I really enjoy the 1904 podcast. But having just finished watching this week’s, I’m left to agree there has been a massive overreaction.
I said before the games, Leeds and Sheff Utd should not be judged. We were never expected to win.
The next 3 on the other hand (Stoke, Cardiff, QPR) are perfect to analyse as Tim Walter will have had more time and we are expecting to get something out of all three, including at least one win.
We have had a bad start. We aren’t playing well. But that doesn’t mean it will continue when we play those teams around us! We might get 7 or 9 points from these yet!
If we lose all three or play terribly/have little shots on target, then questions can rightly be asked. Not yet though. A lot of fans are jumping ahead and have got it in for Tim Walter already. I’m pretty sure the majority are the ones who disagreed with the Liam Rosenior sacking.
Last time I’ll say it, I hope he proves them wrong.
Just going to leave this here.
