Yep, the technology isn't the issue at all. Its how it is being used and the inconsistency
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Yep, the technology isn't the issue at all. Its how it is being used and the inconsistency
Not strictly true
Van Hecke was in Ellborg's line of vision, but he wasn't obstructing him nor was he offside
The Newcastle player was both offside and backing into Ellborg.
Completely different scenarios
Also, VAR didn't rule out the Newcastle goal, it was an on-field decision made by the referee.
There you go japan offside shot at goal saved
Given a corner
What’s the point of var
Given a corner
What’s the point of var
we have VAR and they don't seem to eager to be rid of it so why not use it 'properly' and get the clubs, players and supporters on board with it?
it is painfully obvious that it is being used as a tool to help certain clubs, we have all seen some goal stoppage because a foul occured 5 minutes previously, let the officials do the job, stop all this 'let it run and see what happens' sh1te as we have already seen injuries due to this, if it is a foul then blow, if a lad is clearly offside then blow.
also, stop altering the laws of the game so often, no fecker within the known universe has any idea of what a handball is now, just get back to what it should be 'hand/arm used deliberately to gain control of the ball/score', offside is simply the same as it is excepet we lose all these lines and time wasting, if a lad is clearly offside then he is, if there is any doubt about where his shoe laces were at the time then he is not...simple.
now, going back to my fave peeve, use it to card players for diving/cheating/talking bollox after the game...fair enough they get away with it for that game (as they do now) but a red/yellow can be awarded afterwards, will soon cut out the cheating and i think every person with any interest in the game will welcome those changes.
it is painfully obvious that it is being used as a tool to help certain clubs, we have all seen some goal stoppage because a foul occured 5 minutes previously, let the officials do the job, stop all this 'let it run and see what happens' sh1te as we have already seen injuries due to this, if it is a foul then blow, if a lad is clearly offside then blow.
also, stop altering the laws of the game so often, no fecker within the known universe has any idea of what a handball is now, just get back to what it should be 'hand/arm used deliberately to gain control of the ball/score', offside is simply the same as it is excepet we lose all these lines and time wasting, if a lad is clearly offside then he is, if there is any doubt about where his shoe laces were at the time then he is not...simple.
now, going back to my fave peeve, use it to card players for diving/cheating/talking bollox after the game...fair enough they get away with it for that game (as they do now) but a red/yellow can be awarded afterwards, will soon cut out the cheating and i think every person with any interest in the game will welcome those changes.
Have a look at Gordon's goal v Safc.
Before our keeper played the ball to 09 Barnes foot was inside our 18 yard box.
I've seen a goal kick to be retaken for encroachment in other games.
Before our keeper played the ball to 09 Barnes foot was inside our 18 yard box.
I've seen a goal kick to be retaken for encroachment in other games.
Have you seen the results of the poll by the FSA on VAR?
Very conclusive isn't it. Yet the FA come out and say that their research says everyone loves it.
Strange for the FA to ignore what supporters really think of VAR........ Quite strange
Never conduct an opinion poll if you know you are not going to like the answer.
There are some of the responses to the 'overall impact of VAR'
- VAR has removed the spontaneous joy of goal celebrations – 91.6% agree; 6.2% disagree
- I am concerned about the expansion of VAR beyond its current remit – 86% agree; 7.4% disagree
- I prefer watching games that are played without VAR to games with VAR – 81.2% agree; 9% disagree
- It is better for the game that more correct decisions are being made – 38.3% agree; 31.7% disagree
- VAR has improved the overall accuracy of refereeing decisions – 18.3% agree; 71.5% disagree
- The time taken over most VAR decisions has got shorter – 8.5% agree; 80.4% disagree
- The match-going experience is better with VAR – 3.4% agree; 90.6% disagree
Quite damning really, this is an interesting one and it had me stumped a bit when I completed the survey:
- It is better for the game that more correct decisions are being made – 38.3% agree; 31.7% disagree
I put disagree for that one. Purely because I don't believe refs will ever make 100% correct decisions no matter what technology comes in. Most of them are subjective anyway. Fans with think it's a foul if it's on one of our players and the other teams fans will think it isn't.
Players make mistakes and I fully expect refs to make them, it's part of the game.
Allow each side 2 appeals during the match otherwise var shouldn't interfere. That'd be my suggestion assuming we cannot bin it entirely.
Technology is fine, but var is not that. It's just another human decision off the pitch.
Technology is fine, but var is not that. It's just another human decision off the pitch.
You see if Japan had scored from that corner that was not a corner it would of counted
However if there was an infringement so many passes back before a goal was scored they would revert back to that infringement and cancell out the goal
Var can do anything they want and find a infringement if they want
It’s not used correctly
Yeah I think I put disagree purely because they believe VAR is the answer to making correct decisions.
It probably should have asked "It is better for the game that more consistent decisions are being made"
I found myself unable to jump up on the bar to celebrate the winner against the mags, as I was waiting to see if it was disallowed, how is that a good thing for the game? (I would need steps to get on the bar)
For argument's sake, I think some goals you can celebrate with pure joy - like Brobbey's v the mags imo. It didn't look like anything was near being offside or contentious in that first, real-time watch. 20, 25 yarders like the one Talbi scored off the underside of the bar also have a high chance of standing.
I know there are a lot of goals which you can't celebrate ridiculously, like when the player crossing the ball is played into the crossing position or the player who scores the goal could be offside.
VAR is really subjective for me as I'm looking through the lens of being a Lads' fan more than a pure football fan. When we beat Leeds at Elland Road, I was delighted about the two big decisions that VAR got right - offside for Rodon's goal and a penalty for Ampadu's handball. They didn't take a huge length of time though the handball could have been sorted quicker. The O'Nien grapple round the neck should have been a penalty really, even if by the laws of the game the Leeds player was nowhere near getting to the ball. This last bit derails this view quite a bit mind!
We would probably have lost if Leeds got that penalty as I think it was 0-0 at the time.
This. Go down the cricketing route and give the captain one appeal each half.
VAR doesn’t get involved unless it’s requested.
Fine for a frivolous appeal to stop it being used as a time wasting tactic.
Whichever way you look at it, the game today is being refereed from Stockley Park when an individual is questioning the on field decision of the appointed Official matchday referee.