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I think with values of our players, you have to look at what deals are being done between the Championship clubs and Premiership ones and work from there, nobody is paying £40m for a Championship player unless they are established internationals or have somehow proved they can play at a very elite level already ie a relegated side.

We saw this a bit with Jack Clarke, it was obvious to everyone on here he is worth £20m but we could only get that after add-ons because he is/was untested at that level.

The record for a player going from Championship to Premiership without top level experience is Ollie Watkins at £28m, Jude went from Birmingham to Dortmund for £25m, I'd argue this is the absolute cap as things stand.

It’s a fair and valid point. Few years since Ollie though so there’s the argument that ‘things go up’.

Gray is well over £30m if hits triggers.
 
I genuinely feel like Jobe is north of £30m now. We are quarter of a season deep so we can say ‘he’s added consistency’.

He’s been at least an 8 most games with several 9 & even a couple 10s. He has been another level.

It’s benefitted us that Rigg being 17 has taken some limelight of Jobe, being a 19 year old codger.

If Rigg hadn’t cemented the place (don’t forget he didn’t start season first 11), Jobe's name would be all over Sky and we’d be frantically battling to keep him in January.

The beautiful thing is these lads want to be here right now. They buzz off each other and they love the trust and responsibility.

I don’t see us losing players to Southampton, Brentford etc. They all enjoy the crowds and react and interact with the fans.

When they go, it’s gonna be to clubs that can offer all of that. The list gets smaller.

United
Liverpool
Spurs
Newcastle
Villa
City
West Ham
Arsenal

These are for me the ‘threat’ clubs for our top players. Add some big Euro clubs.

How many of those are in the January market for a backup? Likely only West Ham.

Who's better, Jobe or Archie Gray?

I didn't see a lot of Gray for Leeds but I also didn't see a single person putting him in the top 3/5 players in the league like they are with Jobe.

If we sold him for any amount at this point I would be mortified, I might be ok if it set some kind of record.

Him and the other lads are our ticket to the premier league and could be our ticket to staying up there if we play it right.
 
I couldn’t say who’s better mate. Seen Gray play a handful of times and I’d of course be biased to our lad <laugh>

Just watching the overlap and Chiellini is on, says he agreed to sign for Sunderland in 2007 but we wouldn’t pay the fee.

Mad.
 
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I genuinely feel like Jobe is north of £30m now. We are quarter of a season deep so we can say ‘he’s added consistency’.

He’s been at least an 8 most games with several 9 & even a couple 10s. He has been another level.

It’s benefitted us that Rigg being 17 has taken some limelight of Jobe, being a 19 year old codger.

If Rigg hadn’t cemented the place (don’t forget he didn’t start season first 11), Jobe's name would be all over Sky and we’d be frantically battling to keep him in January.

The beautiful thing is these lads want to be here right now. They buzz off each other and they love the trust and responsibility.

I don’t see us losing players to Southampton, Brentford etc. They all enjoy the crowds and react and interact with the fans.

When they go, it’s gonna be to clubs that can offer all of that. The list gets smaller.

United
Liverpool
Spurs
Newcastle
Villa
City
West Ham
Arsenal

These are for me the ‘threat’ clubs for our top players. Add some big Euro clubs.

How many of those are in the January market for a backup? Likely only West Ham.

What you heven't figured in is what clauses were put in place when they signed or signed an extension.

For example, Clarke was told he could leave if a premier league club came in for him, one did and we begged him to stay another year, he did, but the next year when a club approached we begged him again and he said no.

If Bellingham has signed a new contract it will have a clause in saying we will not step in his way if clubs like Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City etc come knocking.
 
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