It's an interesting phenomenon of modern politics since Trump and Brexit. Both times the establishment were defeated (just an objective fact, doesn't mean that anything not of the establishment is good or bad), and the response by the establishment has been the same, albeit augmented by cultural differences and a different media landscape (UK media is less brazen in it's bullshit, except Sky News who are full on US-like lying corporate media)
Those who have TDS couldn't care if Joe mounted a minor on live TV, they'd say its a Russian disinfo claim (that one really does help those with TDS retreat to their cognitive safe space)
I believe I read as a guest some weeks back Tobes defending this
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I have a 7yo daughter, and if I seen someone did that to her, they're getting pulverized there and then
If you are defending Joe on that ^^ you have chronic Trump Derangement Syndrome