Typical Ashley

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NorthantsNUFC said:
You should be a maths teacher !

Also Sol is off the budget and I Smith gets sold, we will get some more money from that!
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<laugh>, someone said it was around £20,000,000 and I wanted to do the maths so made it into a half post/half workings out. Forgot about Sol!

Smudger said:
You can take Smith's wages off that as well, and Enrique's. Plus fee's for both players and fees for Best and Ranger.

We will spend a 5-6mil on a LB to replace Enrique and we are in talks with 7mil Erdinc. Also Matuidi for example has a 13.1mil release clause, so we will spend.
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Aye I didn't include them yet as they haven't left, like I say though it was just to make a point! I still think we will spend and I didn't work out the wages from Carroll either so it's not exactly water-tight!
I reckon we will spend around the £10mil mark for one or two players; I was just making the point that we shouldn't use the £35mil as gospel be all and end all kitty. If Ashley includes wages in the incoming players' fees, he'll do the same on the outgoing players & he was going to have to give the club some transfer funds this summer anyway (regardless of the Carroll sale).
 
We may still need some money to spend in January cover for African cup of nations and injuries. I think we've been very sensible so far long may it continue.
 
ToonSi said:
Most of it has already been spent since Ashley has said it would include wages.
Cabaye & Marveaux have signed five year deals, Ba has signed a three year deal.
Lets say for the purpose of my point they're all on around £40,000/week.
The two 5 year deals:
40,000 x 52 = 2,080,000 (that's what one of them earns a year)
2,080,000 x 5 = 10,400,000 (that's what one will earn over the 5 years)
10,400,000 x 2 = 20,800,000 (that's what both will cost over those 5 years excluding transfer & agents fees)

The three year contract:
Same again, 40,000 x 52 = 2,080,000
2,080,000 x 3 = 6,240,000

Combine the two numbers together (20,800,000 + 6,240,000) and that's a grand total spend on wages so far of £27,040,000.

However we have got Nolan off the wage bill and his transfer money probably covers Cabaye's fee. Also if we take a look at Nolan's wages of £50,000-60,000/week (rumoured).
That's 50,000/60,000 x 52 = £2,600,000/£3,120,000 (saved a year)
For the two years - 2,600,000/3,120,000 x 2 = £5,200,000/£6,240,000

So if we take that away from the previous total of £27,040,000:
£27,040,000 - £5,200,000/£6,240,000 = £21,840,000 / £20,800,000

I'd like to add that there's probably more money than the £35,000,000 we were going to spend and that they may not be on £40k a week as well as the fact the contracts may be more incentive based & pay as you play. Also Carroll was also on a hefty chunk too I'd imagine so we should still have a good amount of transfer money left but I don't expect any major money signings beyond the £10m mark.
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someone had their weetabix this morning

was going to make the point that wages would be included but you beat me to it granted like i'd have just said wages are included <cheers>
 
& he was going to have to give the club some transfer funds this summer anyway (regardless of the Carroll sale).


Toonsi (or should I say Derek) was he ????????
 
Tisdale's St James Swap said:
why's everyone 'drooling' oer the prospect of Zog he's a t***!
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As are many footballers. But i think people are excited about the prospect because hes been class for Wigan, has grown as player and is now a full french international.

Most fans arnt bothered about attiudes as long as they perform on the pitch.
 
Tisdale's St James Swap said:
plus if including wages shouldn't we include Carrolls?
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I said we should include Carroll's, I just couldn't find out what wages he was getting for that five year deal, where there was a few old newspaper articles mentioning Nolan's wage. Forgot about Tiote getting a new deal, as Smudger said that would have spent the money saved from Carroll's wage.

Hung said:
& he was going to have to give the club some transfer funds this summer anyway (regardless of the Carroll sale).


Toonsi (or should I say Derek) was he ????????
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<laugh> It won't have been anywhere near what we received through the sale of Carroll, but I reckon he would have still given us around the £10-15mil mark, so we should have had a £45-50mil kitty before the sale + wages of Nolan.
 
ToonSi said:
Most of it has already been spent since Ashley has said it would include wages.
Cabaye & Marveaux have signed five year deals, Ba has signed a three year deal.
Lets say for the purpose of my point they're all on around £40,000/week.
The two 5 year deals:
40,000 x 52 = 2,080,000 (that's what one of them earns a year)
2,080,000 x 5 = 10,400,000 (that's what one will earn over the 5 years)
10,400,000 x 2 = 20,800,000 (that's what both will cost over those 5 years excluding transfer & agents fees)

The three year contract:
Same again, 40,000 x 52 = 2,080,000
2,080,000 x 3 = 6,240,000

Combine the two numbers together (20,800,000 + 6,240,000) and that's a grand total spend on wages so far of £27,040,000.

However we have got Nolan off the wage bill and his transfer money probably covers Cabaye's fee. Also if we take a look at Nolan's wages of £50,000-60,000/week (rumoured).
That's 50,000/60,000 x 52 = £2,600,000/£3,120,000 (saved a year)
For the two years - 2,600,000/3,120,000 x 2 = £5,200,000/£6,240,000

So if we take that away from the previous total of £27,040,000:
£27,040,000 - £5,200,000/£6,240,000 = £21,840,000 / £20,800,000

I'd like to add that there's probably more money than the £35,000,000 we were going to spend and that they may not be on £40k a week as well as the fact the contracts may be more incentive based & pay as you play. Also Carroll was also on a hefty chunk too I'd imagine so we should still have a good amount of transfer money left but I don't expect any major money signings beyond the £10m mark.
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Good work ToonSi (failed rep!). Be even more impressed if you did this in your head rather than on a calculator!

Can't believe the number of people who are upset because we have picked up three very good players for effectively zero capital outlay. Cabaye was valued by his club at about £10m, Ba and Marveaux had they not been out of contract would have probably cost £7m or £8m each but we got them for a total of £4.3m. That is brilliant business. Do people actually want the club to spend money just for the sake of it or to prove to other clubs that we can? I hope we get the players we need for as little money as possible.

But like others I think we will still be getting some more players who we will have to pay fairly large sums for. I doubt MA will have much change from the £35m by the end of the summer and if he does he will probably spend it in January.
 
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