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I have wondered exactly when Americans got brainwashed into the uniform = rights.
Did they not watch starship troopers. that was **** movie but had a little social commentary in it on citizenship and the media. which has come to pass.
Robocop, another shut movie had similar media commentary yet the media have become just what was portrayed in it.
I sat in quite a number of us airports and to a man its older white guys who say thanks to soldiers of any color walking by. these are the same guys who then elect trump.
It's very strange to me really.. but I have to try understand it
I think the main point the guy in the video was trying to make was that those who can't accept the result of the election and now resort to violence are the PC brigade who are usually anti violence, war, military, etc. But when they do not get their own way they act the same as the people they claim to deplore so much.
I think it proves that civilization is only a thin veneer over humanity's more basic urges.
I think it proves that civilization is only a thin veneer over humanity's more basic urges.
I can't stand modern "liberals" as they don't stand for much other than do whatever you like.
They've driven the media to this soundbite opinion giving format compared to objective reporting irrespective of offense.
They allow scum like Keyne and Kim make millions on slovenly behaviour cos hey do what you want, can't critics.
I'm all for gay marriage cos I think if two people want to live sensibly and peacefully great. I think all sexes fall for a hedonistic lifestyle that's no good for anyone long term. we have a lesbian in the extended family who's gone basically nuts trying to make statements and attention seeking. we are all... Yeah whatever but the skinheads and neck tattoos. .. when you can't get a job don't cry to me.
Same for choice. if you are in a ****ty situation you need compassion and help not rules to break you but if you are a thick who's to lazy to take precautions and not bothered then to deal with it... you really ought not be making that choice cos long term you will regret it. convince and abortion shouldn't mix. it's too serious.
And I could go on... is that conservative or liberal. I say neither. I don't identify with the people on either side cos none of themy seem to care about people.
? Such fast-and-loose nonsense with the facts sums up the lash out out, victim mentality of the demographic that we're talking about, both here and the US. I agree with MITO that is the perception of these people, but I'm just saying that as there's very little actual fact to back up their perceptions (and specifically the solutions) is the fertile ground that Hitler and the Daily Mail and suchforth thrive upon. Now add Trump and Farage to that list.
It's more do whatever they like and woe betide anyone who dares to disagree. they are liberal fascists.
Maybe the 'Liberal media' should get on board with the DM and S#n and pander to every pre-conceived, bigoted, wrong-headed nonsense that these hicks are blaming for every difficulty in their lives in the real objective to smokescreen the true culprit in all this, and yes it's about liberalism - noeliberal economics, that Murdoch and the Mail have been championing ever since the 80's.
Yes let us rich guys do what we want and you lot that actully pay tax do what you want as long as you pay the taxes.
The US has seen several us major companies try to move out of us totally just to get less tax paid. it's gone too far really.
Globalisation doesn't mean an individual can go anywhere and do anything, it means corporations can do anything anywhere to make money.
Yeah murdoch loves it.
The US has seen several us major companies try to move out of us totally just to get less tax paid. it's gone too far really.
Globalisation doesn't mean an individual can go anywhere and do anything, it means corporations can do anything anywhere to make money.
Yeah murdoch loves it.
I think for many there is a problem over the definition of liberal.
The traditional understanding of the word - being tolerant of other views and open to new ideas - has nothing to do with liberal economics, which basically allows big corporations to do whatever the **** they like regardless of the social consequences.
I think a lot of people read "liberal" and think it is therefore A Good Thing, whereas it couldn't be further from the truth as far as I'm concerned.
It's the same as fundamentalist.
That's a terrible word for an extremist loon.
They are actually literalists. they read a passage intended for a 1st or 4th century audience and take it as literal must do. martyrdom, fire and world's end etc etc
That's a terrible word for an extremist loon.
They are actually literalists. they read a passage intended for a 1st or 4th century audience and take it as literal must do. martyrdom, fire and world's end etc etc
Apparently Farage has persuaded Trump to put back that bust of that 'Part-American' Winston Churchill into the Oval Office. Wonder what Boris Pollard will have to say...
Funny how these right-wing Christian loons, who are now claiming the previously irreligious Donald as one of their own, are never literalists about that tricky passage regarding the rich, camels and the eyes of needles, isn't it?
No, which is why I'm not one of those protesting the election. Even though I think Trump will be every much the disaster that Brexit has been. (Even before enacted)
Although, in the case of Trump, more people voted for Hillary, but an outdated system of electoral college gave him the win. I'd say the will of the people was marginally with Hillary not Trump.
I understand what you are saying but, it's a system that has been around for a while and hasn't had many complaints up to now (at least on the same scale).
Given the choice I'd be a liberal than a right wing bigot. For me, Liberal means equality for all, with a sense of responsibility towards society as a whole, it's that simple.
What nobody's mentioned is Centerist politics which imo is what gets confused with Liberalism. This race to the centre by ALL mainstream political parties is the real problem... and the cause of why people like Farage and Trump get voted in. The irony is that whilst we talk about liberalism meaning excessive choice, it's actually the lack of choice in our politics that people are getting ****ed off with.
But here's the problem. Who's really suffered with centerist politics? The right? No. The right are very good at selling themselves in a centerist environment... through fear. They can move the centre line so the extreme actions can be argued and a significant majority convinced of their cause. It's actually the left who suffer completely with centerist politics. Because everything they espouse to goes against the capitalist agenda most centerist politicians set. I'm not a lefty btw, but I do feel that we have a real of choice and there are plenty of worthy ideals the left hold which get lost or worse still, blown up out of all proportion as mad loony left stuff.