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Trump is already starting a legal challenge to votes he doesn't like.I'm like "totally shocked" the election has turned into a ****show
Good ol' US of A.
Interestingly, I've just read on the Beeb that the turnout is thought to be the highest for 120 years.
well, tbh, Michigan Trump had a nice lead, then at 5am 130k vote ballots were "found" for Biden and 0 for Trump
The bookies odds flipped immediately, that's how I noticed and confirmed it on FiveThirtyEight.com
You dont think that suspicious?
Pensylvania changed their election law right before the election, allowing mail ballots with no postal mark, and no signature checks to arrive after election day and be counted
You dont find that suspicious?
or did you not know these objectively true facts?
Bush v Gore was rife with dodgy **** too
It matters less with huge victories, it's when its close that the cheating matters
It matters less with huge victories, it's when its close that the cheating matters
Lots of things might seem suspicious when one isn't in possession of all the facts.
I read that voting flipped because they'd only just started to take into account postal votes. The reality is I don't "know" any more than you do, I just think the American tendency to file lawsuits at everything is just another example of their venality and corruption.
Just saying that there are some really strange things happening.
I like my statistics
receiving 130k votes for Biden and 0 for Trump, at 5 in the morning, is a statistical white Rhino and should be investigated
Surely they'd have to be a bit dim to do something so transparently corrupt? True or not, there must be some plausible explanation that can at least stand up to scrutiny, because they'd know sure as hell it's going to get it.
Anyway, I'm British not American, and I've little interest in their internal politics and their internecine warfare beyond the awe of how much of a ****show it all is.
They are 5% of the world's population but they think that they are the world, and have somehow managed to convince large chunks of the rest of us that they are.
The disproportionate economic, military and cultural hegemony that they exercise over the rest of the world is the only thing that really concerns me, and I hardly think that will change significantly, regardless of who the president is.
They are 5% of the world's population but they think that they are the world, and have somehow managed to convince large chunks of the rest of us that they are.
The disproportionate economic, military and cultural hegemony that they exercise over the rest of the world is the only thing that really concerns me, and I hardly think that will change significantly, regardless of who the president is.
You say that but then, you have to accept that many of these people believe he's literally hitler
and the system was always bent, after Bush Gore, they fixed nothing.
How far would you go to stop literal hitler?
I remember this board rallying to the defence of the US when I used to say this, but in details in what they were actually doing in various theaters
I remember the vociferous defence of the US and NATO on here
What a difference a few years makes
Also further to this, when people list the reasons why they dont like Trump, absolutely nothing relating to that is mentioned. Not the current stealing of Syrian oil, the sanctions starving kids, what is happening in Yemen, the full backing of stealing Palestinian land
It's always some ethereal "facts" like "hes a fascist" or "white supremacist" or "works for Putin"
@Red Hadron Collider right? I asked you to flesh out why you think he's a fascist, you just ****ed off instead
Tut, tut Sis.I remember this board rallying to the defence of the US when I used to say this, but in details in what they were actually doing in various theaters
I remember the vociferous defence of the US and NATO on here
What a difference a few years makes
I've already searched back old posts on some things I covered
I called Hunter Biden's weird appointment to Burisma in Ukraine in 2014 on here right after the Nazi coup. 6 fookin years ahead of it being a thing
In 2014 when Obama said definitely no boots on the ground in Syria, I said that is a patent falsehood because their strategy demanded it as those fake rebels would not defeat the Syrian army, BINGO
I said also that they were arming Al Qaeda in Syria, and 2 years later it all comes out in the media.
And of course, the fake chem attacks by the rebels, blaming Assad, the OPCW scandal proves they had no evidence of it, but had evidence the rebels did it
I'm a ****in Nostradamus me
Seriously, the evidence was there for anyone who cared to look
So voting security is not about whether you can do it or not its about how provable the evidence is after the fact.
If you have a a big pile of polling cards you count and pile up anyone can audit them and check them all if so ordered
If all are on line then in theory all you have is a file online not an auditable trail. Its about trust in the end.
The issue for trump is no matter how much he jumps up and down and whines there are literally 100+ poll checkers for his party in the count in Pennsylvania and they can challenge every single vote they see (and probably are) and then after that the courts can recheck and they will be able to lay their hands on every single voting paper for the next 6 months.
If you have a a big pile of polling cards you count and pile up anyone can audit them and check them all if so ordered
If all are on line then in theory all you have is a file online not an auditable trail. Its about trust in the end.
The issue for trump is no matter how much he jumps up and down and whines there are literally 100+ poll checkers for his party in the count in Pennsylvania and they can challenge every single vote they see (and probably are) and then after that the courts can recheck and they will be able to lay their hands on every single voting paper for the next 6 months.
Poll watchers were not allowed to be that close to the counting. They were 20 feet away and allowed no closer. How can you watch if you literally cannot see the ballots?
How do you have an auditable trail for mail ballots with no post marks no verified signatures and the envelopes are destroyed for ballots delivered AFTER election day?
The system was rotten long before Trump got in, it only becomes glaring in close races, as it did with Bush Gore
I remember this board rallying to the defence of the US when I used to say this, but in details in what they were actually doing in various theaters
I remember the vociferous defence of the US and NATO on here
What a difference a few years makes
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I probably disagreed with your espousement of so many conspiracy theories because I don't think there's sufficient intelligence or agreement amongst world leaders to effectively carry them out, for one thing. However, my opinion of the USA as a nation (not necessarily all its people) has been rather low for all my adult life.
For a developed country it stinks.
I had opinions based on evidence none of you ever read nor wanted to read, and thus just throw lazy labels around like conspiracy theorist.
EVen the 911 stuff, one can entertain a theory without ever committing to actually thinking it was 100% true, and one has to entertain something as true in order to examine it from that perspective, my failing was I didn't do the opposite, entertain that it was false and question from that line of thought.
Plus the internet then, had so much utter bollox on 911 that it was difficult to find any truth to start you off
The denial of what the US and NATO are (UK too, your version of the deep state is up to its neck in starting that Syrian war), in terms of the war machine, was stark back then, some people have stopped drinking the cool ade, not all tho
Intelligence services around the world, and spook agencies, are out of control.
I think it was Robert Fisk who first suggested there was foul play with the chemical attacks, followed by Seymour Hersh and the OPCW whistleblowers.
Its as big a scandal as WMD's , but the mainstream media won't go near it in any real detail