Theresa May has announced her new Brexit secretary
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soooo.... where does this go next.?
The eu get to accept it first and then it's back to house of clowns sorry commons.
The eu get to accept it first and then it's back to house of clowns sorry commons.
please help me understand the following:
1. Gove back May in cabinet meeting on brexit deal
2. Gove refuses brexit secretary position on gorund he wants to "renegotiate the deal" if he takes job
3. Gove considers position
So... outside pure and utter political self interest can anyone explain this mans actions?
1. Gove back May in cabinet meeting on brexit deal
2. Gove refuses brexit secretary position on gorund he wants to "renegotiate the deal" if he takes job
3. Gove considers position
So... outside pure and utter political self interest can anyone explain this mans actions?
****er springs to mind, but he is a torrie and that applies to all of them.
what about the **** who changed the retirement age to 67 yet he retires at 61 with a huge payoff!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46230281
Gove now has full confidence in may..................... to make sure he is next PM by delivering a disastrous deal he doesn't agree with.
IMO.... MAY was only ever put in as PM cos nobody wanted the ****ing job. not one of the brexiteers wanted it or had the support and none of them have ever tried to oust her as they have no way to fix this. MAY is happy to be pm and get a massive pension and book deal... she is bulling on with this crap as she MUST know the brexitters with leave the file dof play when the final day comes and let her put it through and then they will have a public witch burning for her to fall on her sword in shame and swan off.
Gove will step in to a UK post brexit with a transition period that can run forever as a quasi EU state to negotiate a deal on trade for future with EU. probably on norway model.
I honestly beleive 100s of mps will forget to vote on this deal as none was to be seen to back it but wont reject it either as they know full well if they do its a disaster. Some won't care and will vote no like johnson who is a total idiot and deluded to thik he will be PM.
I just think its a total fit up and once its all done and dusted the UK will be in a customs union and the EU will run off doing whatever
Gove now has full confidence in may..................... to make sure he is next PM by delivering a disastrous deal he doesn't agree with.
IMO.... MAY was only ever put in as PM cos nobody wanted the ****ing job. not one of the brexiteers wanted it or had the support and none of them have ever tried to oust her as they have no way to fix this. MAY is happy to be pm and get a massive pension and book deal... she is bulling on with this crap as she MUST know the brexitters with leave the file dof play when the final day comes and let her put it through and then they will have a public witch burning for her to fall on her sword in shame and swan off.
Gove will step in to a UK post brexit with a transition period that can run forever as a quasi EU state to negotiate a deal on trade for future with EU. probably on norway model.
I honestly beleive 100s of mps will forget to vote on this deal as none was to be seen to back it but wont reject it either as they know full well if they do its a disaster. Some won't care and will vote no like johnson who is a total idiot and deluded to thik he will be PM.
I just think its a total fit up and once its all done and dusted the UK will be in a customs union and the EU will run off doing whatever
I love how divided USA politics and departments are.
I was astounded to see the cia reported fingered the crown price of Saudi Arabia as the guy wot dun it.
Next thing the state department is saying they have yet to conclude who dun it.
Huh.
Are they deliberately sewing different stories. Have the pissed the **** out of Saudis?
Who knows
I was astounded to see the cia reported fingered the crown price of Saudi Arabia as the guy wot dun it.
Next thing the state department is saying they have yet to conclude who dun it.
Huh.
Are they deliberately sewing different stories. Have the pissed the **** out of Saudis?
Who knows
And one of Trump's judiciary telling the President himself he has to return the CNN reporters White House press pass.
Nope that's the Trump effect... interestingly not been as disparate since Kennedy... we can only hope.
Yes, because general ****ing elections are won on a minority of the electorate, unlike referenda, which require a majority. In which case, 48%>52%. It's simple maths.
I got sick of being informed I didn't know what I was voting for. I'd have conversations like this:
Them: Brexiters are uninformed on the EU.
Me: What's the difference is between the European Council and the European Commission?
Them: *blank face*
Me: What about the discrimination directive?
Them: The what?
Me: The discrimination directive to stop minorities and LGBT people being discriminated against. Some of the human rights you said the EU defends.
Them: What about it, mr. smartarse?
Me: EU leaders refused to pass it, because it was "too expensive" and they were laws individual countries could do themselves. Wasn't "we can make our own laws" what Leave was saying? Was that not a crux of the argument?
Them: BREXITERS ARE STUPID.
Me: That may or may not be true but at least if they're gay then they can get married here. And surprisingly it was the architects of the EU-approved austerity you support which gave us the right to gay marriage in the UK. Not everybody in the EU has the same human right. Some of them still force sterilisation on anybody who is transgender, because God help us if they start breeding, right? Human rights are great but let's not get carried away.
Them: Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
Me: No, cliches are. But still, you don't sound so informed, which is ok, because nobody should expect you to know all the minutiae of the EU. Save that for a general ****ing election.
I don't usually agree with Peter Hitchens on anything but I'm reminded of when he commented that the UK has always been eurosceptic, before everybody got fanatical about it, and we've always kept it at arm's length - not many who voted Remain want full integration or to join the Euro, not even Ken ****ing Clarke - so, Hitchens said, we're going to go from being half in the EU to being half out of it. Et voila!
Why did anybody expect a reasonable deal? The EU could never afford to give us one. There are eurosceptic nations waiting to see what happens. A reasonable deal would start a domino effect and mean the end of the EU altogether.
I really don't know how all those nations not in the EU survive. Well, actually I do. Scottish trade at the turn of the millennium was around 60% UK, 22% EU and 17% rest of the world (RotW). By 2014, before any referendum was announced, the % of EU and RotW trade had switched and Scotland now trades more with RotW than EU. So if WTO tarriffs, which fell, are so bad, Nicola Sturgeon needs to tell Scottish business.
Anyway, from my uninformed position, it's fine to support the EU like your footy team. Just don't call yourself a socialist. Any radical socialist programme would be illegal under EU law. You're sucking corporate dick and loving it. Freedom of movement would be lovely if it was a verse in 'Imagine' about cultural diversity, but it's not. Multinationals used to threaten to move a factory overseas with a cheaper workforce if a union got uppity. The EU said **** that, let's move the workforce to the factory. Bonus score, the workers pay their own way there! Cheap fruit and veg? Yeah, some poor immigrant bent double on an industrial corporate-run farm for 12 hours a day on a pittance and Remainers say it like it's a good thing. Well, look how happy they are to be here earning a living and housing their relatives in that council house, which were the working class "uninformed" communities who integrated immigrants. No immigrants living next door to Mark Carney. My Polish neightbour is lovely and I don't resent him getting a supermarket job. What I resent is, after applying to all the supermarkets and being entirely qualified for the jobs, I couldn't even get an interview when I was unemployed, then some piece of TV poverty porn has a recruiter telling me, "Brits don't want to work." They never even asked. Cliches and stereotypes abound on both sides.
In or out, Capitalism will continue to put us through booms and busts. It's what it does and we didn't vote to leave Capitalism, though that's a referendum I'd like to see.
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i would love to know the ****er who spin trump the line that Finland takes its forest.
that's one sick practical joke.
that's one sick practical joke.
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this place could go up in flames you little ****er... take the **** out of that lawn
seriously though.
if love to know what the finnish actually told trump about forset care. or whoever did.
if love to know what the finnish actually told trump about forset care. or whoever did.
Apparently just that having 75% of country being forest they have a good surveillance system.
I'm surprised Trump didn't insist on bringing in snow machines....
He really is a bit special...
He was certainly sold a complete line on this one.
no nothing to do with climate change... no you lazy democrats didn't get out and take your forests.
US migrant caravan: Trump's asylum ban halted by judge
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46272666
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46272666
for every issue in America there is a judge and a lawyer ready to go.
...except gun control....
Can the deal pass through the commons? Difficult at the moment. Labour MPs have to abstain in large numbers or vote for it.
If it fails, 3 possible outcomes (ignoring the personal ramifications for May and others):1) a No deal Brexit. Or 2) People’s vote 3) general election.
Yet option 1 was described by Rudd (and May later in her Phone in) as a disaster scenario that the commons will not accept or vote for. And no one in the country has prepared any contingency for that scenario.
Option 2 has already been ruled out by May. Unless she is kicked out of no 10.
Option 3) I can’t see May and her colleagues deliberately risking putting Corbyn in power. And no one can force one on May
Something has to give. My money is on the deal being approved by MPs although most of them think it is a lousy deal, worse than staying in.
If it fails, 3 possible outcomes (ignoring the personal ramifications for May and others):1) a No deal Brexit. Or 2) People’s vote 3) general election.
Yet option 1 was described by Rudd (and May later in her Phone in) as a disaster scenario that the commons will not accept or vote for. And no one in the country has prepared any contingency for that scenario.
Option 2 has already been ruled out by May. Unless she is kicked out of no 10.
Option 3) I can’t see May and her colleagues deliberately risking putting Corbyn in power. And no one can force one on May
Something has to give. My money is on the deal being approved by MPs although most of them think it is a lousy deal, worse than staying in.