Off Topic Trevor Sinclair

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There is of course the ultimate opt out for those that really can't stand living in a monarchy, go live in france, or the states, and so on.
At the very least, show decorum, shut the f*** up til this is over.

None of us are living in 'a Monarchy' mate, what the Royal Family get up to isn't of any real significance tbh.

Do William and Harry get on, is Andrew a sex pest, was Charles shagging Camilla before all the money and pageantry for his marriage to Diana ...

... in the midst of a war in Europe, extreme poverty in parts of our country and the match being off today it's of little real significance.

People have more important issues in their own families than what's going on in someone else's.
 
There is of course the ultimate opt out for those that really can't stand living in a monarchy, go live in france, or the states, and so on.
At the very least, show decorum, shut the f*** up til this is over.
The brainless kiss arses could also go and do one also
 
Of the 3 or 4 replies you have had with reasonable comments, you choose this one to reply to?

Doesn't really help your cause does it
Haven’t even seen any others but as Britain is a dumping ground for immigrants snowflakes should head off to somewhere like Germany where it’s settled
 
I've said this before- quoting Republic's website on how much the Royal Family costs the taxpayer is pointless. I mean, it's not like they've got an agenda or anything.

What organisations like Republic fail to acknowledge is that, even without the Monarchy, we'd still have a head of state. The head of state would require a residence and security. They would have a family who would also require security. There would still be state events. Through analogy with other republics we could anticipate that former heads of states would continue to have security once their term in office was over and might have some kind of state funded pension, which is likely to be substantial.

All of this would be paid for by the taxpayer. Its unlikely, however, that any elected head of state would be able to make the same contribution to the cost that the Royal Family do through their land holdings. Its also unlikely that the state events would attract the same level of interest without the Royal Family and so the economic boosts that such events provide would be lost (conservative estimates suggest that the money generated by the Platinum Jubilee was many times more than the cost to the tax payer of staging it).

On top of all that, we would lose all of the diplomatic leverage that having the world's most recognised and respected Royal Family gives. And we would lose all of the historical significance of the events, places, and traditions surrounding the Royal family which are an integral part of the national identity- which I think is more valuable than mere money.
Well we can’t quote the figure on actual royal wealth because the royals legislated to hide it for fear of unrest. Why so that so you think ? Do you think an alternative head of state would want 21million a year plus 345 plus the hidden cash they have in the bank?
If we opened up places like Windsor Castle, Balmoral , Buckingham Palace for the benefit of the state to add to that would they want the income for that? And their cousins and all the rest of the landowning profit making hangers on? Get real man. Leave them to be ‘head of state’ which is essentially an administrative role and let them ride on bikes like the Dutch and get a job like the Danish and stop sponging off the masses while misusing their power to hang around with millionaire *****philes and marry awkward 19 year olds. People don’t want to consider this stuff- why? If they were as kind and moral as made out why do they take money when they don’t need it and have multiple homes as their devoted people suffer ? Maybe they aren’t what the narrative makes out ?
 
"This means that the cost per person for the monarchy last year was £1.29 for the total Sovereign Grant."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-29/how-much-does-the-royal-family-cost-a-breakdown-of-the-key-figures?leadSource=uverify wall
So should we give them 345 million or five this money to the poor ? And do you think this considers the ‘billions’ it will cost. Added to that there is lost money for their misuse of our land for personal profit.
 
In the fiscal year 2019/2020, the Royal Estate's income from ticket admissions in the United Kingdom rose over the previous year. Overall, the admission income peaked at nearly 49.9 million British pounds in 2019/2020, increasing from approximately 48.4 million in 2018/2019.

That's just ticket sales. How much boost does the economy get from hotesl, restuarants, vehicle hire, shopping etc with the tourists?
 
Do you think we should give people who earn for one estate - one - 21million who hide their wealth 356 million? When people - their ‘subjects’ are in poverty? You answer that ? I wouldn’t even accept it.
Their accounts are.published as has been shown in previous posts.

Should we abolish all rich people as others are in poverty? The CEO of my current company had a 2.3 million bonus. Shoud I down tools? Should he not take it?

I might understand your viewpoint better if you clearly explained what you believe we as people and as a country should do
 
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In the fiscal year 2019/2020, the Royal Estate's income from ticket admissions in the United Kingdom rose over the previous year. Overall, the admission income peaked at nearly 49.9 million British pounds in 2019/2020, increasing from approximately 48.4 million in 2018/2019.

That's just ticket sales. How much boost does the economy get from hotesl, restuarants, vehicle hire, shopping etc with the tourists?
https://www.republic.org.uk/tourism
 
In the fiscal year 2019/2020, the Royal Estate's income from ticket admissions in the United Kingdom rose over the previous year. Overall, the admission income peaked at nearly 49.9 million British pounds in 2019/2020, increasing from approximately 48.4 million in 2018/2019.

That's just ticket sales. How much boost does the economy get from hotesl, restuarants, vehicle hire, shopping etc with the tourists?

You could abolish the monarchy and with the cash build the biggest and best Zoo and Aquarium in the world, (if not Jurassic Park) that would attract millions of people and entry fees.

David Attenborough could be President
 
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Well we can’t quote the figure on actual royal wealth because the royals legislated to hide it for fear of unrest. Why so that so you think ? Do you think an alternative head of state would want 21million a year plus 345 plus the hidden cash they have in the bank?
If we opened up places like Windsor Castle, Balmoral , Buckingham Palace for the benefit of the state to add to that would they want the income for that? And their cousins and all the rest of the landowning profit making hangers on? Get real man. Leave them to be ‘head of state’ which is essentially an administrative role and let them ride on bikes like the Dutch and get a job like the Danish and stop sponging off the masses while misusing their power to hang around with millionaire *****philes and marry awkward 19 year olds. People don’t want to consider this stuff- why? If they were as kind and moral as made out why do they take money when they don’t need it and have multiple homes as their devoted people suffer ? Maybe they aren’t what the narrative makes out ?
The working Royals do work. They might not do physical labour but has heir to the throne, Charles has been working 14hr days. Attending meetings, functions, keeping aware of political, constitutional, and diplomatic developments- all work and a key part of the what the main Royals do. Many of the others do have 'real jobs'. And there is nothing illegal or immoral in owning land or.property and renting it out- many 'commoners' do it.
 
Their accounts are.published as has been shown in previous posts.

Should we abolish all rich people as others are in poverty? The CEO of my current company had a 2.3 million bonus. Shoud I down tools? Should he not take it?

I might understand your viewpoint better if you clearly explained what you believe we as people and as a country should do
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news...-for-change-in-law-to-hide-her-private-wealth

Simple for me. Make royal land our land so we all benefit for their estates. I actually think inherited wider royal family members are a bigger issue. https://www.business-live.co.uk/enterprise/duke-westminster-you-need-know-20839466.amp This stuff needs to be put right
Ensure the rule of law is adhered to equally for all. This keeps getting ducked https://www.republic.org.uk/prince_andrew_owes_british_public_answers
 
So you're saying that article is more reputable than Forbes?
Forbes is an article about wealth for the wealthy by the wealthy so no reason why not. Maybe the other looks behind what’s hidden by those with privilege and power.
 
The working Royals do work. They might not do physical labour but has heir to the throne, Charles has been working 14hr days. Attending meetings, functions, keeping aware of political, constitutional, and diplomatic developments- all work and a key part of the what the main Royals do. Many of the others do have 'real jobs'. And there is nothing illegal or immoral in owning land or.property and renting it out- many 'commoners' do it.
Who’s land is it ?
 
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