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I know but then you come to jenners second point, any club would be mad to let them go.

We've got a very attractive, sellable team atm, offers will flood in, do we just sell them all in one go?

It would certainly top up the piss up fund :)
 
Why not? How many did saints lose after that good year they had? Was getting close to that number.

And i I don’t think anything should change? Let clubs buy and sell as many as they want, as long as not breaking ffp then why not. All your suggesting is letting the top clubs cherry pick the best players and those that are lower down aren’t allowed to improve their squad meaning the gap would just get bigger and bigger.

Selling youth players and buying other other clubs youth players for cheaper is how a lot of lower league clubs get by on a day to day basis
I haven't suggested anything <whistle>

I just don't see any club losing 6 players in one go. Two things: 1 you seem to be saying that one of the 'smaller' clubs would be the victims of being stripped. 2 most of the 'bigger' clubs buy abroad unless they're looking for home grown to keep their quotas intact.
 
Man Utd once sold numerous first teamers in one window; Ince, Kanchelskis, Hughes, etc. How'd that work out?
 
Three player rule doesnt work. However for debates sake.

Are free transfers new players? Is there an age limit to what is a buy/take on at the club. How are you going to stock up on your youth team/academy?

What happens when a number of players run out of their contracts? Can players buy out of their contracts? What happens when a giant gets relegated with big wages and cant get rid of their players because there are only limited transfers? What about loan players, do they count as a player incoming?
 
Four; Lallana, Lambert, Chambers and the DM Man Utd signed who's name escapes me

Edit; Sniederlain (sp)

southampton 2014/15

purchases:
Dušan Tadić £10,900,000
Graziano Pellè £9,000,000
Fraser Forster £10,000,000
Shane Long £12,000,000
Sadio Mané £10,000,000
Florin Gardos £6,000,000
Saphir Taider Swap
Ryan Bertrand £10,000,000

Departures:
Tom Leggett Free
Isaac Nehemie Free
Andy Robinson Free
Rickie Lambert £4,000,000
Danny Fox Free
Luke Shaw £27,000,000
Guly do Prado Released
Lee Barnard Released
Jonathan Forte Released
Adam Lallana £25,000,000
Dejan Lovren £20,000,000
Calum Chambers £16,000,000
Billy Sharp £600,000
Matt Young Released
Jonathan Forte Released
Dani Osvaldo Swap
Jack Cork £3,000,000

They held sneiderlin who was rightly pissed and ended up at utd not arsenal and flopped.

As i'd recall... thatd really be: Lambert, Shaw (break out player but still) Lallana, lovren, cork... chambers as i recall vaguely wasn't a huge loss due to age, was on edge of squad. 5 or 6 then... and if you say sneiderlin was unsettled fair enough.

but... look at what they replaced with... everyon bar gardos had a big big part to play in thier season. 6 deffo first 11 starters


I could go on but you'd prob complain about post length so in short
next year lost clyne and sneiderlin
following year lost wanyama, mane, pelle and fonte which is again 4 first team starters
following year Jay rod (was busted at the time) and VVD
following year (this one) lost tadic and gabbiandini

So.... yeah you can be picked on every year so having a rule that says yuo can only buy 3 or something makes no sense if you are losing 4 or 5 every year to various clubs.
 
Three player rule doesnt work. However for debates sake.

Are free transfers new players? Is there an age limit to what is a buy/take on at the club. How are you going to stock up on your youth team/academy?

What happens when a number of players run out of their contracts? Can players buy out of their contracts? What happens when a giant gets relegated with big wages and cant get rid of their players because there are only limited transfers? What about loan players, do they count as a player incoming?

If you are prevented from employing people by a rule you'd go to the eu :bandit: cos it would be unjust.

It'd be really simply in my view.

1. Sneior players are entitled to move when out of contract, out of contract should be a free for all.
2. yes players (agents) should be able to buy themselves out of a contract. HOWEVER their registration should not be owned by agents PERIOD.
3. yes there should be a clear age restriction on players. No player should have fees paid before age of 18 and clearly players should never be allowed change countries under age. Freedom of movement rules in eu aside we are talking about employment of minors.
4. If someone gets relegated and doesn't have wage reductions in contracts more fool them.
5. loans are already heavily regulated on the intake (not heavily regulated enough on the outgoing as your club proves.
 
southampton 2014/15

purchases:
Dušan Tadić £10,900,000
Graziano Pellè £9,000,000
Fraser Forster £10,000,000
Shane Long £12,000,000
Sadio Mané £10,000,000
Florin Gardos £6,000,000
Saphir Taider Swap
Ryan Bertrand £10,000,000

Departures:
Tom Leggett Free
Isaac Nehemie Free
Andy Robinson Free
Rickie Lambert £4,000,000
Danny Fox Free
Luke Shaw £27,000,000
Guly do Prado Released
Lee Barnard Released
Jonathan Forte Released
Adam Lallana £25,000,000
Dejan Lovren £20,000,000
Calum Chambers £16,000,000
Billy Sharp £600,000
Matt Young Released
Jonathan Forte Released
Dani Osvaldo Swap
Jack Cork £3,000,000

They held sneiderlin who was rightly pissed and ended up at utd not arsenal and flopped.

As i'd recall... thatd really be: Lambert, Shaw (break out player but still) Lallana, lovren, cork... chambers as i recall vaguely wasn't a huge loss due to age, was on edge of squad. 5 or 6 then... and if you say sneiderlin was unsettled fair enough.

but... look at what they replaced with... everyon bar gardos had a big big part to play in thier season. 6 deffo first 11 starters


I could go on but you'd prob complain about post length so in short
next year lost clyne and sneiderlin
following year lost wanyama, mane, pelle and fonte which is again 4 first team starters
following year Jay rod (was busted at the time) and VVD
following year (this one) lost tadic and gabbiandini

So.... yeah you can be picked on every year so having a rule that says yuo can only buy 3 or something makes no sense if you are losing 4 or 5 every year to various clubs.

I was only picking the ones of note....
 
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If you are prevented from employing people by a rule you'd go to the eu :bandit: cos it would be unjust.

It'd be really simply in my view.

1. Sneior players are entitled to move when out of contract, out of contract should be a free for all.
2. yes players (agents) should be able to buy themselves out of a contract. HOWEVER their registration should not be owned by agents PERIOD.
3. yes there should be a clear age restriction on players. No player should have fees paid before age of 18 and clearly players should never be allowed change countries under age. Freedom of movement rules in eu aside we are talking about employment of minors.
4. If someone gets relegated and doesn't have wage reductions in contracts more fool them.
5. loans are already heavily regulated on the intake (not heavily regulated enough on the outgoing as your club proves.

So for some club with unlimited money/richer clubs
1. Hoover up all the out of contract players
2. Big clubs pay players to buy themselves out then get them on a free and not count as a buy
3. Loads of academy players stuck until their contracts are up as how many teams are going to buy youth players with only 3 transfers to make
4. Yes but loads of clubs don't have relegation clauses to tempt players. Stupid but they normally go on a fire sale which won't happen now. See more clubs going to the dregs
5. Bigger clubs will just pay loan fees to get players to offset their 3 player transfers only.

Why i don't think only buying 3 players will work
 
I know he's been mentioned on here a few times in the past few weeks, but Joao Felix (the Benfica player) has now been linked again by the reporter who broke the Fabinho news last year. Crazy money mentioned, upwards of 100mill Euros for a kid, but he's a good source previously so who knows.

Given Klopp's said basically we're not going to spending hugely, just a few here or there if the right player is available, who do we think our summer targets are?

Werner could be on the move, Bayern more likely though? He's the more expensive one and tbh, I've never been convinced on the occasions I've seen him play.
More bargain hunting level though:
Brandt looks like a possibility - 25mill clause in his contract - and Klopp is a huge fan having wanted him over Salah originally.
There's Hakim Ziyech at Ajax who's having a great season and has been scouted by us, 16 goals and 12 assists so far. Reportedly available for less for 30mill.
Also young Steven Bergwijn from PSV, 14goals and 12 assists, who's similarly available for less than 30mill.

Any favourites? Realistically.
 
I dont know why but have a feeling klopp is just bluffing media.

Felix is more likely than the napoli striker insigne?

Werner i keep being told is done deal to us but media keep reporting going to bayern.

Virgil dutch partner young lad would like to see.
 
I dont know why but have a feeling klopp is just bluffing media.

Felix is more likely than the napoli striker insigne?

Werner i keep being told is done deal to us but media keep reporting going to bayern.

Virgil dutch partner young lad would like to see
Jurgen Klopp said "Liverpool do their dealings privately not through the media". Clever game. Also being careful of the accusation of tapping up players.
 
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I know he's been mentioned on here a few times in the past few weeks, but Joao Felix (the Benfica player) has now been linked again by the reporter who broke the Fabinho news last year. Crazy money mentioned, upwards of 100mill Euros for a kid, but he's a good source previously so who knows.

Given Klopp's said basically we're not going to spending hugely, just a few here or there if the right player is available, who do we think our summer targets are?

Werner could be on the move, Bayern more likely though? He's the more expensive one and tbh, I've never been convinced on the occasions I've seen him play.
More bargain hunting level though:
Brandt looks like a possibility - 25mill clause in his contract - and Klopp is a huge fan having wanted him over Salah originally.
There's Hakim Ziyech at Ajax who's having a great season and has been scouted by us, 16 goals and 12 assists so far. Reportedly available for less for 30mill.
Also young Steven Bergwijn from PSV, 14goals and 12 assists, who's similarly available for less than 30mill.

Any favourites? Realistically.

Felix is top drawer... but he's got a certain agent so there's no point going there.
 
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