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Justovertheline said:
In all fairness most of you do think that lol go back through the thread ha ha
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I'm afraid not.

Again.... there is a difference between what a player is actually worth and what you can ask for.

Mist of the discussion which you've misrepresented here is that if x was normally going for 20m but is now being offered at 50m then the rates apparently have changed and all should be adjusted accordingly.

Added to that. It has often been discussed on threads like this that we in past years have been overcharged by clubs based on the fact they know how much money we have to spend... Carroll for example (I'm sure you were there laughing at us paying what we did at the time?)

So it's same situation...we know how much barca have in their pocket so can ask for as much as we like since we don't want to sell. They can always walk away. Absolutely nothing to do with how much a player is worth to them or us. Which is subjective and apparently turned on its head anyway.

Really not hard to comprehend.
 
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Justovertheline said:
Lol means laugh out loud in text speak I suspect you know that though but you need to question this as you have no other argument to give
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I did, in that very sentence. You seem to beleive we are saying Ford is 'worth' £135m - we're not. We're saying we should either get that for him from a team with £200m in their pocket or they'll walk away. Either way, we win (big). Do you honstly believe Lukhesky was 'worth' £90m? really? But that's what you got - at least double his 'real' worth? Well that's all opinion, but 'worth' is irrelevant - it's about what clubs can pay and will pay. Barca CAN pay what we want - if they won't... **** 'em.
 
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DirtyFrank said:
Mweh...they want him they'll pay what we ask for him...although that appears to be no money in the world officially.

No different than Southampton. They can name their price and we have to pay it to get him. Or they stay resolute that he isn't going.

All quite right and proper.

Figures are meaningless now and have been for quite a while. At least until the TV subscriptions drop to the point sky etc can't pay what the PL are asking.

Interesting though that people were saying we couldn't/wouldn't turn down 90+M for him. Apparently we would.. .....
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TBH I thought we would cave at 80-90m

I do think had neymar not gone for batshit crazy money- and of course pogba and lukaku he would already be gone at 90m

But had neymar not gone this crazy **** wouldn't be being discussed anyhow :)
 
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Diego said:
Now you are getting there, the transfer fee doesn't unsettle players, the direct promise of massive wages from a manager does <ok>
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Getting where.. I haven't changed my position over VD since it came up on this thread.

I criticised our approach...said we got our just desserts and after I saw VD's behaviour stated my reservations about him joining us....i distinctly remember at least 3 others sharing these view too....

Try again.
 
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FSG's Last Stand said:
All Prem club's start and finish the transfer window on the same day, some get their businesses done earlier than others but still get it done, even Woodward who takes loads of stick off the mancs, and despite the crap they get the Glazers spend money generated by their club.
You're correct in saying it's not FSG's fault of a club won't sell but it's also fair to say that Klopp isn't totally in control of players bought, FSG's man at Anfield is saving them fortune by his baseball approach to football.

Hope all works out well for us but the rumblings of discontent will get louder until John Henry makes his/FSG's position on Couthinho clear.

His silence is deafening.
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I can only partly agree, Page. Since they've taken over they've paid good money for players several times. Some of them worked out but some were catastrophic. It's hardly surprising, seeing as they're businessmen first and foremost, that they're cautious in the way they spend.
We all get frustrated because we want things doing our way, but I think the accusation that they won't spend is unfair. Comparison with Utd or the oil-rich clubs is equally unfair - we're just not in that bracket and only a sustained run of success will get us there.
Their main problem, imo, is a lack of understanding of the football world and a little naivete in the market. Perhaps they should have employed better advisors, but it's easy for us to criticise when we don't have to do it.
 
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donga darko said:
I did, in that very sentence. You seem to beleive we are saying Ford is 'worth' £135m - we're not. We're saying we should either get that for him from a team with £200m in their pocket or they'll walk away. Either way, we win (big). Do you honstly believe Lukhesky was 'worth' £90m? really? But that's what you got - at least double his 'real' worth? Well that's all opinion, but 'worth' is irrelevant - it's about what clubs can pay and will pay. Barca CAN pay what we want - if they won't... **** 'em.
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Ah so he's not worth it now then glad we cleared that up laugh out loud (because I'm not allowed to write lol)<whistle>
 
saintKlopp said:
I can only partly agree, Page. Since they've taken over they've paid good money for players several times. Some of them worked out but some were catastrophic. It's hardly surprising, seeing as they're businessmen first and foremost, that they're cautious in the way they spend.
We all get frustrated because we want things doing our way, but I think the accusation that they won't spend is unfair. Comparison with Utd or the oil-rich clubs is equally unfair - we're just not in that bracket and only a sustained run of success will get us there.
Their main problem, imo, is a lack of understanding of the football world and a little naivete in the market. Perhaps they should have employed better advisors, but it's easy for us to criticise when we don't have to do it.
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Fair enough saint, but our owners don't seem to learn from past mistakes and dont(at this point)seem arsed and are silent at a very important time, I still don't think they've got the hang of "soccer" yet, but only time will tell.
 
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DirtyFrank said:
Getting where.. I haven't changed my position over VD since it came up on this thread.

I criticised our approach...said we got our just desserts and after I saw VD's behaviour stated my reservations about him joining us....i distinctly remember at least 3 others sharing these view too....

Try again.
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me being one of them.
 
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