sure... just read what i just posted above.
nothing at all wrong with that if it does a job of taking 5/10 goals a season off the against tally.
especially at full back...
as a striker (name any of ours) its a big problem
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sure... just read what i just posted above.
nothing at all wrong with that if it does a job of taking 5/10 goals a season off the against tally.
especially at full back...
as a striker (name any of ours) its a big problem
Agree with what you are saying MITO. No criticism at all. You cannot have a team of flanagans and expect to win. Just people misinterpret your average tag for what other people would call it. I prefer the word solid personally. I guess there are also different interpretations as do you expect your defenders to be special in attack or solid in defence. I suspect if Moreno was scoring 10 a season (showing great attacking qualities) whilst not being able to defend for toffee, does that still count as a special player?
For me personally i prefer my defenders to be solid which for me actually means they are not average. Would someone like Nesta or Maldini at CB count as [HASHTAG]#average[/HASHTAG] or special because they didn't contribute as much in attack/goals?
I'm not so sure, I'm starting to get the feeling that Milner is our answer to the Midfield ProblemTM
And I'm guessing Ings is out solution until Sturridge returns...
I'm hoping I'm wrong and we're actually still in for the likes of Benzema, Higuain, Pjanic, Lacazette etc (if they'd even join us)
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yes yes... it is fan boy talking
but its also... ohoh we are seriously lacking realist MITO talking.
1. What we have:
RB: wisdom, flanagan (injured) manquillo (homesick?)
LB: moreno, enrique(told to find new club.
In all fairness we are desperately short as proved by can playing out of position.
At 33 arbeloa has played well and at the maximum of his potential for real madrid. He did very very well to get a game there IMO. that proves he is solid.
It cannot prove if the guy can still run.
BUT... lfc have right now one full back in each poition at best and really.. moreno can't defend and i don't think rodgers trusts wisdom.
2. Reservations:
As a result even for one year arbeloa would make some sense to me.. redconn is very wise in his reservations I also agree with those.
3. average tag:
and finally as i have said... [HASHTAG]#average[/HASHTAG] is not an insult. most prem players are [HASHTAG]#average[/HASHTAG] after all. the mediocre ones dont last long or get a game and the good ones move up the league to find their level.
so flanagan is average. that's better than being championship like little jay spearing or stephen Darby, of tom ince or a plethora of other lads we might name.
4. my aims:
LFC can carry a few once they are not bang in the centre of the team and setting the tone. LFC need to focus most of their available cash on a striker and a CM now. Realistically milner is a good add but he can't be the total add and so we really need another CM and we are in dire need of a real forward.
If we spunk 35-40 mil on one player up front, 15mil on Kovaci and added ings, milner, arbeloa wile balancing the books with many dead wood transactions I would say realistically thats ok no?
Most prem players are above average. Average would suggest middle which if we're talking pro football means lower champ and upper league 1 has the average footballers.
Prem footballers are all above average in that case otherwise what you are saying is that 90% of players playing in our country professionally are below average which defeats the whole point of the word average.
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ok so... then fine i accept your point however i am talking premier league really
Flanagan is an average prem player. thats a huge compliment in my book. i call allen the same. Yes i used championship like jay spearing when i worte it fair enough but i really am saying average = average prem player.
average = the majority in prem
good = top half but not top 6
very good = top 6 quality
top player = top 2/3 clubs quality
Worldies = anyone playing for LFC
or of course barca medicore is players down aorund the bottom clubs not getting a game and showing they aint up to it.
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ok so... then fine i accept your point however i am talking premier league really
Flanagan is an average prem player. thats a huge compliment in my book. i call allen the same. Yes i used championship like jay spearing when i worte it fair enough but i really am saying average = average prem player.
average = the majority in prem
good = top half but not top 6
very good = top 6 quality
top player = top 2/3 clubs quality
Worldies = anyone playing for LFC
medicore is players down aorund the bottom clubs not getting a game and showing they aint up to it.
So Flanno is a top player going by your ratings because he was a regular for a top 2 club last year in his only full season as a regular. Glad we cleared that one up
So Flanno is a top player going by your ratings because he was a regular for a top 2 club last year in his only full season as a regular. Glad we cleared that one up
oh please that wasn't even a good wind up effort.
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Wasnt meant to be... Was just using your logic and applying it to one of our players
Wasnt meant to be... Was just using your logic and applying it to one of our players
no you weren't you were twisting it to suit yourself.
1. LFC are not a top 2 club, have not been since 1991.
2. anyone with a modicum of footballing knowledge would see i'm being generous to flanagan cos he plays for us. if you want a new cult hero fine but flanagan is just average.
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Bit we finished 2nd last year... If finishing 2nd doesn't make you the 2nd best club in the country then might as well forget playing 38 games a year.
I don't understand you MITO sometimes. On the one hand you think solid/ MITO [HASHTAG]#average[/HASHTAG] defenders are okay in the team but you would like quality (Mankiller/flanno). On the one hand you are advocating for Arbeloa to be signed on who is the definition of a solid / MITO [HASHTAG]#average[/HASHTAG] defender. I hope this is the fanboy in you speaking
There's a difference between 'average' and doing the basics extremely well. Arbeloa is far from average.
Unspectacular? - Yes. But he's a damn good defender.
Have you been following the thread Jimmy. First Biscan now you! I've said he's a good defender. I hope you also note that i was MITOs rating. MITO scale of player would put Arbeloa in the average category
If you want to take MITO's point in it's most literal sense, then you have a point.
But Flanno was garbage last season, as was most of our team bar the attack which literally carried our team. Flanno, along with Skrtel and Gerrard were bigged up by most fans off the back of the real work done by the attack.