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My favourite post on this thread was the guy who said ‘Everything’s fine. Acun’s just been a bit naughty and pushed his luck but it’s how he does business. Coaches were enjoying a pint at the Hilton’.

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Mike White on Radio Humberside has said that change of ownership does not change the fee restriction windows, only a successful appeal can reduce it.

Something Wednesday fans have been saying to those who think that their owner selling up will solve all their problems regarding their embargo. It won’t.
I know a Wednesday fan and they are in far more danger than we are.
 
Fact.. from the EFL website


If a Club is found to be in breach, then the Club will be unable to pay or commit to pay any transfer fee, compensation fee, loan fee, or any other form of payment when registering any player from the date of the breach until it expires at the conclusion of three full transfer windows.

This means that if a Club breaches the 30-day rule during a transfer window, their Fee Restriction will cover the remainder of that transfer window plus the three full transfer windows that follow.

Unlike an embargo, a Fee Restriction isn’t lifted upon payment of the outstanding debt, but can be appealed by Clubs.



Clubs can ‘staff up’, so they have 23 Permitted Players within their squad.

Clubs are able to ‘staff up’ to ensure the integrity of the competitions remain and so that Clubs are able to fulfil their fixtures.

  • Clubs are only permitted to ‘staff up’ by signing players on loan or players not registered with another Club
    • Clubs cannot pay fees to acquire loan players and cannot pay additional wages on top of the salary the player receives at their parent Club
  • Clubs ‘staffing up’ may only register players until the end of the current Season, whilst loan transfers can only be for half a season

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The way people’s concerns get disregarded as ‘bed-wetting’ or ‘pant-pissing’ on here really is a talent. Putting a spin on the three-window fee restriction as ‘well, it could be worse!’ is amazing. Seriously, some have missed their calling in life as editors for Pravda.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cd1rlkjkxx0o

Oxford had their three-window fee restriction reduced on appeal to a £3,500 fine and a one-window suspended sentence which allowed them to sign players for fees last season. They argued their case as being due to an isolated administrative error.

Be interesting to see what City’s defence is during the appeal.
 
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How many more late payments are going to come out the woodwork?
It's looking as if we might do well to hit the woodwork next season....A bit OTT I know, but I've got a feeling it might not be that bad!!! It's called blind optimism.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cd1rlkjkxx0o

Oxford had their three-window fee restriction reduced on appeal to a £3,500 fine and a two-window suspended sentence which allowed them to sign players for fees last season. They argued their case as being due to an isolated administrative error.

Be interesting to see what City’s defence is during the appeal.

Think with what's being suggested regarding multiple clubs/ organisations owed money the key wording in that is 'isolated administration error'. I fear we're up sh1t creak without a paddle
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cd1rlkjkxx0o

Oxford had their three-window fee restriction reduced on appeal to a £3,500 fine and a two-window suspended sentence which allowed them to sign players for fees last season. They argued their case as being due to an isolated administrative error.

Be interesting to see what City’s defence is during the appeal.

Not a chance we get away with that though if it's multiple offences to other clubs as well?

I reckon absolute best case is we get it downgraded to just this summer, which wouldn't be the end of the world I don't think.

Would be a real shame to miss out on Zambrano and Frigan though!
 
Think with what's being suggested regarding multiple clubs/ organisations owed money the key wording in that is 'isolated administration error'. I fear we're up sh1t creak without a paddle

I agree.

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These are the factors the Disciplinary Commission will take into consideration when judging whether the initial sanction was disproportionate.

Personally, I don’t have much hope and I think City’s lawyers will have worked miracles if they come away with no immediate fee restriction. I think Buckingham said the Barry loan fee was close to 100 days overdue and it appears us not paying the fee on time was intentional rather than inadvertent which I think would work against us.
 
I agree.

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These are the factors the Disciplinary Commission will take into consideration when judging whether the initial sanction was disproportionate.

Personally, I don’t have much hope and I think City’s lawyers will have worked miracles if they come away with no immediate fee restriction. I think Buckingham said the Barry loan fee was close to 100 days overdue and it appears us not paying the fee on time was intentional rather than inadvertent which I think would work against us.

How has this been allowed to go on?
Its complete incompetency at best
 
Burnsy has the knack of asking the question but not coming across a **** in doing so.

Well most of the time anyway. McCann couldn't stand him.

Burnsey has been great at asking the questions we all would want to. I get why McCann didn't like him. Straight to the point and put him on the spot which he wouldn't like.
 
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How has this been allowed to go on?
Its complete incompetency at best

Based on the timeframe given by Buckingham, it seems like the Barry fee should’ve been paid at the end of February and the 30-day grace period was up to the end of March.

The only thing I can imagine working in City’s defence is if they had a written agreement from Aston Villa to delay the payment until the summer.
 
Based on the timeframe given by Buckingham, it seems like the Barry fee should’ve been paid at the end of February and the 30-day grace period was up to the end of March.

The only thing I can imagine working in City’s defence is if they had a written agreement from Aston Villa to delay the payment until the summer.

Why would we pay the loan fee they sent us damaged goods?
 
The way people’s concerns get disregarded as ‘bed-wetting’ or ‘pant-pissing’ on here really is a talent. Putting a spin on the three-window fee restriction as ‘well, it could be worse!’ is amazing. Seriously, some have missed their calling in life as editors for Pravda.
Because some of us try to be optimistic and not totally pessimistic which is as bad the other way .
I’m normally pretty cynical about these things but hope at all times the bad things are not true .
 
The way people’s concerns get disregarded as ‘bed-wetting’ or ‘pant-pissing’ on here really is a talent. Putting a spin on the three-window fee restriction as ‘well, it could be worse!’ is amazing. Seriously, some have missed their calling in life as editors for Pravda.

No one has said it could be worse, some have said the transfer embargo for 3 transfer windows is not cast in stone, it can be appealed against and it is possible that the issue can be sorted.