Too many wrongs to be right.....

[BBFs Unpopular View]

I already addressed that point

Oh here we go again with your games.

We tried to cement our status by buying players from a team that finished 8th, grossly overpaying for them when we should have tried to buy quality like Depay and others from Europe getting more quality per £

yes it's all very good in hindsight, but I expect Rodgers to have that ****ing ability to recognise this, whereas I expect myself to not have that ability.

I'm not the one getting a hefty salary from the club to run the team and I did not refuse help in doing the job like Brod did

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

So Astro you reckon he should be given another year and more money then? Honest question

 

[astro]

Oh here we go again with your games.

We tried to cement our status by buying players from a team that finished 8th, grossly overpaying for them when we should have tried to buy quality like Depay and others from Europe getting more quality per £

yes it's all very good in hindsight, but I expect Rodgers to have that ****ing ability to recognise this, whereas I expect myself to not have that ability.

I'm not the one getting a hefty salary from the club to run the team and I did not refuse help in doing the job like Brod did

Assuming Depay didn't single handedly turn our season into a massive success, how would it be any different than the current situation with Markovic excpet him costing even more and having even more pressure?

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Assuming Depay didn't single handedly turn our season into a massive success, how would it be any different than the current situation with Markovic excpet him costing even more and having even more pressure?

Markovic is no striker. Depay is a striker, one who looks to be of real quality, I never heard of Markovic before we signed him. and he's played like a league one player, albeit a pacey league one player.

He either showed some real stuff in Portugal or our scouts need to be lined up against a wall and shot.

 

[astro]

So Astro you reckon he should be given another year and more money then?

Yes he should, there's not even the slightest doubt for me he should get 1 more season.

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

We needed to overpay for quality, not overpay for average

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Yes he should, there's not even the slightest doubt for me he should get 1 more season.

Fair enough, what about the money?

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Depay can score goals, Lallana can't, Depay is 21 Lallana is 26
It would have taken 30m to tempt PSV.
4m in the difference, why do you not agree?

we have almost 0 hope of getting him this summer.

Plus if we had done that, we'd have ben 16m better off not haivng to get Balo, so really, we'd be 12m better off IF we had managed to get Depay for 30m and not bothered with Lallana and Balo

Lallana has added nothing to us this season

I agree. don't think the lad is quite there but has huge potential and i reckon last year he was not 30mil

same for eriksen

same for lazawhzzit.

the fact is we bought lallana, lovern and balotelli for a combined 61million which is criminal then and in hindsight too

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

I agree. don't think the lad is quite there but has huge potential and i reckon last year he was not 30mil

same for eriksen

same for lazawhzzit.

the fact is we bought lallana, lovern and balotelli for a combined 61million which is criminal then and in hindsight too

Spurs were knocked back for 20m last summer I think, so 30 would be needed to steal him because he was important to them, top scorer this season.

20 goals. How many has our top scorer got

 

[astro]

Fair enough, what about the money?

I don't know how it's been organised so far anyway, so aside from asking the club to adopt Tobes' brilliant strategy of "buy the right players" then I'm not in a position to comment.

But if he isn't going to be given money then why bother keeping him as a manager aside from FSG making him a scapegoat to cut costs?

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

I don't know how it's been organised so far anyway, so aside from asking the club to adopt Tobes' brilliant strategy of "buy the right players" then I'm not in a position to comment.

But if he isn't going to be given money then why bother keeping him as a manager aside from FSG making him a scapegoat to cut costs?

I am asking the questions because we are at a crossroads right now at the end of a failed season, which is totally fair.

If Brod is there at the start of next season he will have my support as he has had all season. I don't trust him with the cash tho BUT we absolutely need to spend

 

[astro]

I am asking the questions because we are at a crossroads right now at the end of a failed season, which is totally fair.

If Brod is there at the start of next season he will have my support as he has had all season. I don't trust him wit the cash tho

Well let's say we finish the season 1-2 points outside the top 4. So you call it failed and sack the manager. Next season the new manager finishes 6 points outside the top 4, do you sack him there and then?

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

Well let's say we finish the season 1-2 points outside the top 4. So you call it failed and sack the manager. Next season the new manager finishes 6 points outside the top 4, do you sack him there and then?

You are not getting it mate, I am not faulting his management throughout the season I have defended Brod all season.

It's the transfers. We wont finish 1 point from top 4 tho, and we could finish 6th too, which is 1 place better off than his first season. Actually we could finish 7th, below the team we paid 50m for a bunch of their players last season, Southampton.

One could say finishing befow City is bad, given how disasterous their season has been.

 

[ShanksHateTheMancs]

Fail to challenge for the title, any other competitions, or get CL football?

Helped them to get closer than they have without him, and if you really are going to argue that he did not push them further than they were, or where they are now, then you have zero credibility! I like how the rest of it you ignored? I suppose in your twisted view, Suarez was also only a bit part player last season and contributed equally did he?

 

[astro]

You are not getting it mate, I am not faulting his management throughout the season I have defended Brod all season.

It's the transfers. We wont finish 1 point from top 4 tho, and we could finish 6th too, which is 1 place better off than his first season. Actually we could finish 7th, below the team we paid 50m for a bunch of their players last season.

OK so if it's just transfers I don't know how you can complain unless you have inside knowledge on the entire Rodgers/committee/FSG dynamic. It's clear there have been cases of Rodgers not getting his first choices (Konoplyanka, Remy, Sanchez) so why should he take the blame and we lose out on all the other things he does?

 

[SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING]

Because when we make great buys from abroad like Coutinho, Can, Sakho everyone just says "yeah well apart from them" and when we make buys like Markovic everyone whines he doesn't adapt instantly

There is an argument that players from other leagues take time to adapt and that players already playing here have no such issues. But given that none have adapted, bought from here or otherwise from the latest window with the exception of Can, who is playing out of position, you have to ask why. Surely? 3 or 4 good players out of 24 purchases is poor by any standards.

 

[astro]

Helped them to get closer than they have without him, and if you really are going to argue that he did not push them further than they were, or where they are now, then you have zero credibility! I like how the rest of it you ignored? I suppose in your twisted view, Suarez was also only a bit part player last season and contributed equally did he?

my point wasn't about Suarez/Bale's contribution but how that's used by the manager

How come Rodgers used Suarez so effectively that we challenged for the title and Spurs didn't?

Or is Suarez on his own literally worth 4-5 places higher in the table than Bale?

 

[BBFs Unpopular View]

OK so if it's just transfers I don't know how you can complain unless you have inside knowledge on the entire Rodgers/committee/FSG dynamic. It's clear there have been cases of Rodgers not getting his first choices (Konoplyanka, Remy, Sanchez) so why should he take the blame and we lose out on all the other things he does?

I can accept that targets are missed out on like Sanchez and Costa ect. I didn't think Remy was worth big money.
I am also not well versed on who is out there in Europe, but Depay is one good example of someone who was a really good prospect and the same age group as Sterling and Cout. If we had got him and he even returned 10 or 12 goals, we'd be lookng at 4th or better.

But lets forget it all, it is water under the bridge. It's done, we signed who we signed.

My concern is now what the **** we are going to do now this summer.
Johnson Enrique Lucas Gerrard Skrtel are for the glue factory, Skrtel is 30 so our DM situation is more problematic with an ever decreasing Skrtel, Lucas is 28 and not getting any better as Can has had to cover a **** defence and will next season too

This is without considering Lovren Balo are utter failures. markovic is yet to show anything, Moreno has been very suspect, manquillo too.

We need to spend a few bob which is galling given we just spent a lot already in the summer

How can we compete if we spend less than our rivals and then go spend it on ****e

 

[SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING]

my point wasn't about Suarez/Bale's contribution but how that's used by the manager

How come Rodgers used Suarez so effectively that we challenged for the title and Spurs didn't?

Or is Suarez on his own literally worth 4-5 places higher in the table than Bale?

Bale wasn't in the league last season. Suarez was worth 50 goals to us last season (minimum). Fact is, any rival who had him in their team would challenge for the title.

And let me make this clear, while Sisu is only challenging the transfers, I am not. I think that even with the right acquisitions, he'd not win anything because frankly, he's not good enough; found out with the best player in the world on fire, found out against the best tacticians, found out in Europe (badly), found out against an average Villa team. In many cases, this year, we have looked lost. Perhaps we have signed real talent and he's not deploying them properly. BR is not good enough for Liverpool in every regard. Just thought I'd clear it up.

 

[Tobes]

Because when we make great buys from abroad like Coutinho, Can, Sakho everyone just says "yeah well apart from them" and when we make buys like Markovic everyone whines he doesn't adapt instantly

Nonsense argument.

Lallana at 26 was never worth £25m and Lovren was never worth £20m. £45m for a pair of players who'd had 1 decent season a piece in the PL, with the side who finished 8th. It was awful business.

Oh and for every Coutinho and Can, there's been an Assaidi, an Aspas, a Borini, a Balotelli, a Sahin and an Alberto..............