Why? Three times as many people agree with my vote than yours. Trying to hound a manager out of our club is exactly what a WUM would do.
It's the first time in nearly 20 years that we've had a bad run of results...that doesn't signify that there's anything wrong at all!
A few have already said they only voted to keep Ange in defiance of Levy, not because they actually think he's necessarily a good manager. I'd also be keen to know how many of the votes are actually Spurs fans, it's very a possible a few non-fans have voted for a laugh, though I can't be certain of that of course.
It depends how much better they are than the 15th best squad. But I still reckon we will finish around 8th.
We'd have to claw back an 11 point swing to currently finish 8th. Unless we experience a miraculous upturn in form, that's extremely unlikely.
Quite possibly but I was being accused of Wummery when all I have been doing is putting the argument for keeping Ange
I think King just struggles to see your viewpoint. I do too, although I don't think you're a wum. I just think you and I see things very, very differently.
Wanting Ange in is fine and that doesn’t make you a wum. It’s some of the things you say that make you sound like one to me.
8th? Not a chance in hell. That would require a run of results that Spurs just haven’t shown under the tutelage of Ange.
If managers aren’t getting sacked because of results, on what grounds should managers get sacked then? Football clubs literally sack managers all the time because they haven’t picked up results in a “results game”.
The average tenure of a football manager is ridiculously low. That's because clubs sack them too early. It may be a results game but many things affect results other than managerial decisions. We've seen four this season...poor recruitment, injuries, bad refereeing decisions and a bizarre distribution of goals. You should ask your newly appointed manager what their strategy is and sack them if they depart from it.
but to use two of your examples (injuries and distribution of goals), what if the manager is partially responsible for an exacerbated injury situation? As well as not adapting and adjusting their methods/tactics to counteract the poor distribution of goals, thus correcting that problem? I can’t stand Levy from a footballing perspective, but even I can admit that not everything is his fault. Simply put, there’s components of the on field success that are the managers responsibility. Therefore accountability has to lie with that person
Bottomless chequebook and Man Utd had an off season at a time the Premier League made the SPL look competitive
I totally agree with your last point but it is still important to make decisions on statistically significant measurements. There is far too much knee jerk reaction happening throughout football. Your point about the distribution of goals is seemingly shared by the vast majority of fans but I don't think it is right. Goals are scored and conceded quite rarely and usually by good attacking play or defensive mistakes. I can see how better coaching can improve the former or decrease the latter but I can't see what can be done to change the distribution. Take Brennan Johnson...he has scored a few very similar goals this season but he has also missed a few from almost identical situations. If he had happened to score four of the ones he missed and missed four of the ones he scored we could have 8 more points. I don't think this is under anyone's control.
Any list you care to make of successful managers will still lead you to the conclusion that there was no common factor that would have led you to choose them.
So, somewhat like the situation Eddie Howe finds himself in at Toontown - except he's starting from a much higher position and with even more cash - but a way off challenging for a PL title.
