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Should we sack Ange now?


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Ali Gold’s not held too much back either:

“There was sympathy and understanding for Postecoglou midway through this season when Spurs were struck down by an unprecedented injury crisis which only seemed to worsen each week. Yet those days are gone. Postecoglou has a full squad and little has changed when it comes to results. Everything promised under the former Celtic boss has thus far failed to materialise to any lasting degree.”

Ouch

Even the ones who like Ange seem to have turned on him.

The end for the hapless Aussie is close.
 
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Yeh but you forget one important factor

Levy is penny wise, pound stupid.

best way to make money is to build winning teams, he hasn’t cracked that code so he won’t see the logic you are suggesting

In his mind, the stadium being built was job done and it would pay for itself slowly but surely with qualifying for CL or Europa every season.
 
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Yeh but you forget one important factor

Levy is penny wise, pound stupid.

best way to make money is to build winning teams, he hasn’t cracked that code so he won’t see the logic you are suggesting
There is no evidence for your first assertion. There are very few examples of us failing to sign a top class player by penny pinching.
As is proven all over the world, spending money builds winning teams. We have had nowhere near enough until recently, and even now we are behind.
 
In his mind, the stadium being built was job done and it would pay for itself slowly but surely with qualifying for CL or Europa every season.
If he though the latter he was very wrong. We still had a way to go to catch other clubs' spend. We were bound to have some seasons out of Europe. Everyone else has apart from Man City.
 
Is it really ludicrous to think that with fewer injuries we could have 15 more points and already won the League cup? That still seems to me the likely cause of our predicament.
 
If he though the latter he was very wrong. We still had a way to go to catch other clubs' spend. We were bound to have some seasons out of Europe. Everyone else has apart from Man City.

That’s understandable but 15th at present with a likelihood of around 11th at best or 17th at worst? There’s out of Europe and then there’s an utter car crash of a season that will likely have huge ramifications.
 
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Is it really ludicrous to think that with fewer injuries we could have 15 more points and already won the League cup? That still seems to me the likely cause of our predicament.

Would probably have more points but highly doubt they would have won the League cup
 
Is it really ludicrous to think that with fewer injuries we could have 15 more points and already won the League cup? That still seems to me the likely cause of our predicament.

15 is a random number to predict but that would still only have us in 8th place (not great but not a disaster) and that’d be 4 points behind Newcastle who won the league cup so if basing it on form assuming we had 15 more points, Newcastle would’ve still been favourites to win.
 
Levy wouldn't put £100m at stake to save a few quid. He doesn't operate like that as you well know.
Or Ange probably has a European qualification clause, whereby he is rewarded for finishing the season having qualified for Europe. If Levy sacks him before his chance to qualify for Europe (via winning the Europa), then any pay off would likely still include that bonus as Ange still has the chance to win the Europa. Once we are knocked out, that bonus is no more and cheaper for Levy to sack Ange.
 
Or Ange probably has a European qualification clause, whereby he is rewarded for finishing the season having qualified for Europe. If Levy sacks him before his chance to qualify for Europe (via winning the Europa), then any pay off would likely still include that bonus as Ange still has the chance to win the Europa. Once we are knocked out, that bonus is no more and cheaper for Levy to sack Ange.
Yes, but if another manager would have won the thing Levy would be £100m down by not sacking him. It's insane to not do it for that reason.
 
15 is a random number to predict but that would still only have us in 8th place (not great but not a disaster) and that’d be 4 points behind Newcastle who won the league cup so if basing it on form assuming we had 15 more points, Newcastle would’ve still been favourites to win.
Only if none of the extra points came from Chelsea or Villa. We would more likely be 6th. But it is all conjecture.
But to want to sack Ange you need to conclude that the injuries made much less difference which sounds far-fetched to me.
 
We made the UEFA final that season...was the rioting fans in the away leg of the final that convinced him to go.
I started being a fan the following season as a 7 yr old!

The hooligan thing did appear to end his love for the game.
Hard to say if he had quit earlier that the 70s spiral
would have played out same/faster for his successors.
 
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Only if none of the extra points came from Chelsea or Villa. We would more likely be 6th. But it is all conjecture.
But to want to sack Ange you need to conclude that the injuries made much less difference which sounds far-fetched to me.

I want to sack Ange for a number of reasons:

The football is terrible.
There is often a sense of players have no idea what they’re doing.
I believe he’s the root cause for many injuries.
Many good players have regressed under his leadership at an alarming rate.

I see zero reasoning for wanting him to stay and struggle to understand why people would want him to. We’ve sacked better managers for doing better.
 
The main issue with Ange is how it looks like we wanted to take the Harry Redknapp approach again and have somebody who would put an arm around players demoralised by Conte and the Portuguese axis and get them playing freely once again

This issue is that while Harry Redknapp did have an ego, it didn't really manifest in any negative ways until his inexplicable tinkering with a working system when he was batting his eyelashes for the England job, but with Ange the ego has been far more apparent and is a large reason for so many of his press conferences being needlessly tetchy since at least October

I'd also suggest ego for how he undermined the logical decision to drop the defence back 20 yards during the injuries by not having the midfield drop at least 10 yards back, which is why balls over the top have been routinely marooning our midfield while inviting pressure on our defence since January
 
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I want to sack Ange for a number of reasons:

The football is terrible.
There is often a sense of players have no idea what they’re doing.
I believe he’s the root cause for many injuries.
Many good players have regressed under his leadership at an alarming rate.

I see zero reasoning for wanting him to stay and struggle to understand why people would want him to. We’ve sacked better managers for doing better.
Items 1, 2 and 4 are exactly what you would expect if a high number of good players are missing and the others are getting insufficient rest. Item 3 is a good reason to want him sacked if it were true but I don't know how to tell.
 
Only if none of the extra points came from Chelsea or Villa. We would more likely be 6th. But it is all conjecture.
But to want to sack Ange you need to conclude that the injuries made much less difference which sounds far-fetched to me.

At this stage it’s more far fetched to think it’s solely down to injuries. Everyone is back fit now and Spurs are still giving up more chances than every other team in the league bar the bottom three.