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King Ossie64 said:
Snide comment from a snide twat<ok>
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Well that was equally snide.

The point is valid as ever though- United 'wums', though most seem sensible posters with an opinion different to yours, wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem if half the regular posters on this board didn't create wum threads themselves.
 
sm1thy said:
Same points as Chelsea is an incredible feat after such a difficult start ..with a manager who apparently cannot hold a candle to Jose ...<ok>
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I suppose you expected to be behind a Martinez managed Everton too did you?

OT happy with Moyes shows their expectations are low because deep down they know he is **** too.
 
CPofL KTBFFH said:
I suppose you expected to be behind a Martinez managed Everton too did you?

OT happy with Moyes shows their expectations are low because deep down they know he is **** too.
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That shows that Jose was right about Chelsea fans not knowing much about football..<ok>
 
CPofL KTBFFH said:
Can't agree. On current form our best 2 defenders are Ivan and Cahill. It isn't Terry missing it's Luiz being in it that's the problem.Azpi,Cahill,Ivan,Cole should be 1st choice.

Can't agree again. You don't spend 100's of millions on talented players and then try to change their natural game.The trio of Mata Hazard and Oscar was looking excellent last season and should undoubtedly be the 3 that starts every game.

The strikers are all poor but one thing we did learn last season, and this actually, is that Torres scores in Europe.
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You need your eyes testing then. Cahill better than terry , not even if terry had a broken foot.

Luiz by the way was the one who missed the tackle in midfield against Basel, which allowed them to over run us.

Look at the stats for Terry in the defence and him out of it and then tell me he is not the best we have at the club.

I expect p[layers on 6K plus a week, to learn how to defend as a team and not act as if football is only the pretty showboaty stuff!
 
chelsea - over 100 years of history said:
To be honest I'm not a major fan of Cahill but he is better than Jagielka whose only near the England team due to Terry and Rio not being picked/available. Average centre back and we'd win naff all with him and Cahill at the back every week IMO.

Luiz is our best centre half by some distance at the moment and gives us an option coming out of defence - like last night when he helped create the goal.

Agree we're missing a Makalele. I think Mikel would do the job fine alongside the right midfielder. Just don't think that is Lampard or Ramires though. Oscar maybe.
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What games are you watching ? Luiz has got at least one ****up in him a game at the moment, he is fantastic going forward, but him and cahill in a defence is a disaster. Terry and ivan , cahill backup, cole left, apalculta(sp) right, luiz in midfield. He is not aware enough for CB at the moment
 
Luiz has always seemed more useful in a defensive midfield role! He was used that way when he first arrived , but now he only gets to play CB!
 
fevriul said:
You need your eyes testing then. Cahill better than terry , not even if terry had a broken foot.

Luiz by the way was the one who missed the tackle in midfield against Basel, which allowed them to over run us.

Look at the stats for Terry in the defence and him out of it and then tell me he is not the best we have at the club.

I expect p[layers on 6K plus a week, to learn how to defend as a team and not act as if football is only the pretty showboaty stuff!
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<ok>.
 
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