This is not a team capable of winning the play-offs

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J-D said:
Power going to your head a bit, OLM?
When you almost quit I was with the rest, saying you've done a good job etc, and don't get me wrong, you have, but this is ridiculous.
Yes you're a mod but unless my memory fails me you were nominated, not appointed by some higher power. Therefore you should be in charge or sorting out the WUMs and stopping threads that go too far, not telling excellent contributors like ISTPLT off for having an opinion.
You do absolutely **** all about the likes of doveston but you deem it necessary to send a public warning to someone who makes a point that is highly valid? Fryatt is far overrated and ISTPLT, like myself, is bored of the constant praise thrown his way, just because he finishes 1 of every 20 chances.
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I'm a City fan first and a moderator second, if I wanted to make a point as a moderator I'd do it by PM, this was just the comment of an irritated poster, my status on here had no bearing on it what so ever. Everyone on here is entitled to their own opinion, if they state that opinion every few days and I think it's unjustified, I'm equally entitled to say it's getting on my nerves and that's exactly what I did.
 
originallambrettaman said:
I'm a City fan first and a moderator second, if I wanted to make a point as a moderator I'd do it by PM, this was just the comment of an irritated poster, my status on here had no bearing on it what so ever. Everyone on here is entitled to their own opinion, if they state that opinion every few days and I think it's unjustified, I'm equally entitled to say it's getting on my nerves and that's exactly what I did.
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It was just the way I read 'I'm getting really ****ing tired of it' (which I've seen from you before), which I perceived as a superior tone.
I don't think that the same opinion stated every few days is too bad IF the opposite is being said just as often, which in Fryatt's case it is.
How is it you always come back with things that sound so damn reasonable? I'm going to look like the bad guy again now <laugh>
 
What a great run of six clean sheet games, a huge achievement. Apart from the Bristol game (who suffer a horrible goal difference) the goal scoring remains a problem, as it has done since the end of December.

The debate about not scoring goals and not getting a striker in that last window are both more pertinent now.

The debate a month ago about &#8220;play-offs or promotion by right&#8221; is slowly being diluted to &#8220;can we make the play-offs&#8221; and maybe &#8220;can we survive them&#8221;.

I believed the front of goal touch by Fryatt and Co. would improve, but I was wrong. Fryatt is a hard worker and seems to put in the effort, but it&#8217;s not happening for him, and no-one is consistently stepping up to take the pressure off him. The opportunities are there in spades produced by a skilful set of players, but not being converted.

I believed we should have made a real effort for a proven striker in January and I still do. I don&#8217;t believe NB had any intention of signing a striker as he put his faith in the players. Maybe he was just offered Josh King and said &#8220;ok&#8221;. That&#8217;s only an opinion (no evidence) but it fits.

Promotion? Certainly it&#8217;s there, it&#8217;s much too early to give up on it and we are still in a good position, but unless something changes we can forget it. We have that game in hand but three other teams above us in play-off positions do as well. Maybe we can hang around in 7th, 6th, 7th, 8th etc and make a late run when goals come from somewhere from an injury free squad; stay in the play-offs while in-form, and hey presto. But if we are still scoring spasmodically then the play-offs can be a nightmare. If you miss chances in those matches you don&#8217;t get another couple of games to make amends. In the promotion year we averaged something like 1.5 goals a game which was low even in that year. The teams ahead of us are doing that now and have averaged 50% more goals than us, and as many of us have pointed out we are only where we are because of the defence. Long may that rock continue, it&#8217;s about our only weapon at the moment.

It&#8217;s possible we may get another striker in this loan window, but either Nicky is keeping his cards close to his chest or has no intention of trying. Have we heard any rumours from the KC?

Fully behind Nicky and his staff/squad, I only hope the feelings a lot of us have about an opportunity missed to freshen things up with a couple of new faces in the dressing room, and on the pitch, don&#8217;t haunt us come June.
 
Chiltons222 said:
What a great run of six clean sheet games, a huge achievement. Apart from the Bristol game (who suffer a horrible goal difference) the goal scoring remains a problem, as it has done since the end of December.

The debate about not scoring goals and not getting a striker in that last window are both more pertinent now.

The debate a month ago about &#8220;play-offs or promotion by right&#8221; is slowly being diluted to &#8220;can we make the play-offs&#8221; and maybe &#8220;can we survive them&#8221;.

I believed the front of goal touch by Fryatt and Co. would improve, but I was wrong. Fryatt is a hard worker and seems to put in the effort, but it&#8217;s not happening for him, and no-one is consistently stepping up to take the pressure off him. The opportunities are there in spades produced by a skilful set of players, but not being converted.

I believed we should have made a real effort for a proven striker in January and I still do. I don&#8217;t believe NB had any intention of signing a striker as he put his faith in the players. Maybe he was just offered Josh King and said &#8220;ok&#8221;. That&#8217;s only an opinion (no evidence) but it fits.

Promotion? Certainly it&#8217;s there, it&#8217;s much too early to give up on it and we are still in a good position, but unless something changes we can forget it. We have that game in hand but three other teams above us in play-off positions do as well. Maybe we can hang around in 7th, 6th, 7th, 8th etc and make a late run when goals come from somewhere from an injury free squad; stay in the play-offs while in-form, and hey presto. But if we are still scoring spasmodically then the play-offs can be a nightmare. If you miss chances in those matches you don&#8217;t get another couple of games to make amends. In the promotion year we averaged something like 1.5 goals a game which was low even in that year. The teams ahead of us are doing that now and have averaged 50% more goals than us, and as many of us have pointed out we are only where we are because of the defence. Long may that rock continue, it&#8217;s about our only weapon at the moment.

It&#8217;s possible we may get another striker in this loan window, but either Nicky is keeping his cards close to his chest or has no intention of trying. Have we heard any rumours from the KC?

Fully behind Nicky and his staff/squad, I only hope the feelings a lot of us have about an opportunity missed to freshen things up with a couple of new faces in the dressing room, and on the pitch, don&#8217;t haunt us come June.
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<ok>.
 
to the original statement .. and theres too many pages to read through so sorry if the point is already made :p


i disagree i think the squad is very capable of winning the play-off ,
i think we will be very difficult to beat , the problem i see looming is will we be in a play-off position when the veg is shaken out of the burger ?!?!
 
WhittlingStick said:
to the original statement .. and theres too many pages to read through so sorry if the point is already made :p


i disagree i think the squad is very capable of winning the play-off ,
i think we will be very difficult to beat , the problem i see looming is will we be in a play-off position when the veg is shaken out of the burger ?!?!
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I also think thats possible, this squad can do it. The point I was making is that over a season things change and we missed an opportunity to correct the goal scoring dilemma, the pressure on Fryatt is getting immense and when an owner offers assisstance to a manager in the way the Allams did, I was surprised it wasn't taken on board. Just hope we do start taking a better percentage of chances starting next match and we camp in a play-off position.
 
Maybe Nick is just as frustrated as some of us.I mean if he is going to bring in a new striker,he'd have to be better than Fryatt. Maybe that man just isn't available and there are obvious reasons for not taking a gamble.

I suppose Billy Sharp was our biggest shout,but if Nick felt he wouldn't suit us,well then he's the man,who are we to argue ? Or he might have known that Sharp wouldn't sign for us.

I think it is better to put out the message that he has faith in the squad he already has,than to say he's been trying to bring in strikers but they don't want to come.
 
I don't understand what you want out of this. You're just interested in being right? Not much we can do anymore, hindsight will be so sweet for you won't it? bloody hell... If I was admin, I'd close this thread.
 
Circa said:
I don't understand what you want out of this. You're just interested in being right? Not much we can do anymore, hindsight will be so sweet for you won't it? bloody hell... If I was admin, I'd close this thread.
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Wouldn't "90th minute Fryatt equaliser away against a promotion contender bumppppp" have been a more amusing way of putting that?

By the way, my target points thing is projecting 80 points for us now, which is more than we were on to get a few games ago. (points allocated to positions of opponents to give a total of 87 if we hit the targets, currently 5 behind after about 2/3 of the season).
 
No you are right of course (that isn't meant to sound sarcastic) I will be quiet, it's just a shame that the writing was on the wall prior to the January transfer window and we didn't do anything about it. Last night was a good point, not that I think we deserved it, but that was more to do with how well blackpool played rather than us been poor. Feel free to close the thread.
 
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