Off Topic This Andrew thing

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For those who are hoping that this all leads to the end of The Monarchy, can you at the same time say what you would replace it with.

Keep in mind please the examples that The World provides, of other Country's leaders.
Trump, Putin, Netenyahu all 'elected' leaders.
And of course we have our own Prime Ministers, who with a different constitution might have been 'Head of State'.
Blair, Johnson and Truss are just the most recent examples.

Lets not throw the Baby out with the bathwater.
A process of decision making
 
It’s the concept of a monarchy i struggle with. Humans who **** and piss we bow to. Man made bloodline celebrities we pay to be rich.
I totally get the anti monarchy sentiment from people, i just think I just have a different opinion nee bother, I also have the same struggle with the religious concept, making people rich because of mythical and human beings and that’s before the wars and conflicts it’s caused
 
I totally get the anti monarchy sentiment from people, i just think I just have a different opinion nee bother, I also have the same struggle with the religious concept, making people rich because of mythical and human beings and that’s before the wars and conflicts it’s caused
To be fair none of us have to pay for the church ...

... the monarchy costs half a billion a year.
 
He was more likely to be arrested than Andrew in my opinion ...

... and has more chance of being convicted.

The links to Trump are growing stronger by the day.
I think with Andrew they just wanted to tag him with something so they could get in the game with him and start their process.
The 'misconduct charge' or whatever it is to me will be the last thing that will put him behind bars.....it's the other stuff like the underage kids, photo's etc that they will seal this horrible human being's fate.
Fergie next for arrest?....I do hope so.
 
I think with Andrew they just wanted to tag him with something so they could get in the game with him and start their process.
The 'misconduct charge' or whatever it is to me will be the last thing that will put him behind bars.....it's the other stuff like the underage kids, photo's etc that they will seal this horrible human being's fate.
Fergie next for arrest?....I do hope so.
I agree mate, Sarah Ferguson is a disgusting human being who I hope the police are looking at.

Taking her young daughters to see a *****phile, after his conviction, pleading for money ffs ...

... that's not prostitution but it's a vile act from a mother.

"Sarah Ferguson described Jeffrey Epstein as the "brother [she] always wished for", according to emails released by the US Justice Department.

In an email dated August 2009, the ex-wife of Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor wrote to Epstein: "I have never been more touched by a friends kindness than your compliment to me in front of my girls. Thank you Jeffrey for being the brother I have always wished for."

She also described how after lunch with Epstein, "it seems the energy has lifted".


The email is dated just weeks after Epstein was released from prison in July 2009 for prostituting minors as young as 14 years old."
 
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To be fair none of us have to pay for the church ...

... the monarchy costs half a billion a year.
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the CoE one of the biggest landowners in the country with £millions of assets and i would imagine the Vatican isn’t short of few pennies
 
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I totally get the anti monarchy sentiment from people, i just think I just have a different opinion nee bother, I also have the same struggle with the religious concept, making people rich because of mythical and human beings and that’s before the wars and conflicts it’s caused
I largeky agree with that
 
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That photo alone looks so bloody wrong
 
I know it’s on a lesser scale but the church receives grants and tax relief from the public purse
Yes they do and I'm against that as well ... they have plenty of funds.

Having said that a lot goes on maintenance, etc, and the churches, cathedrals, etc, do bring in a lot of tourist money ... not to mention all the non-Christians using them for weddings, christenings, etc.
 
I totally get the anti monarchy sentiment from people, i just think I just have a different opinion nee bother, I also have the same struggle with the religious concept, making people rich because of mythical and human beings and that’s before the wars and conflicts it’s caused
Bizarre take again, as the head of the Monarchy is the head of the church of England (another man made concept btw, Henry 8th iirc,)
You like monarchy but have a problem with religion when they are intrinsically linked in the UK - what's the words of the national anthem ffs?
 
Bizarre take again, as the head of the Monarchy is the head of the church of England (another man made concept btw, Henry 8th iirc,)
You like monarchy but have a problem with religion when they are intrinsically linked in the UK - what's the words of the national anthem ffs?
Haven’t got a problem with religion, just don’t get it no big deal,just put me down as bizarre then, I’ll get over it :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
Bizarre take again, as the head of the Monarchy is the head of the church of England (another man made concept btw, Henry 8th iirc,)
You like monarchy but have a problem with religion when they are intrinsically linked in the UK - what's the words of the national anthem ffs?
If you sing the national anthem heartily I would imagine you would have to believe in God?

As the head of the church this dysfunctional family don’t set a high moral bar in fairness. Open adultry by the king and queen and the late queen paying off a lass because her other son abused her.
 
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I am very fond of The National Anthem, the tune that is.
As soon as I hear the op[ening bars, up I get, standing to attention.

The words are only there to spoil things in my view. Drivel.

And over meny years I would be in good company. The tune is also used currently by, Liechtenstein and Norway along with a number of Commonwealth Countries.
It has also been the Anthem of - Prussia, Russia, Switzerland, USofA.

As far as Religion is concerned, I'm hard pushed to come up with any Religion that has escaped without scandal in its leadership.
Even The Dali Lama is not without his critics.
 
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