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The way forward for THFC ??

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by The RDBD, Mar 2, 2023.

  1. Spurs61

    Spurs61 Well-Known Member

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    Well I don't count myself as a spring chicken and since 1961 I have thought every year "it is now N years since we won the league and hoped this would be the season"
    By whose definition do we decide "all that should matter"
    Each person has their own idea of what matters. I love winning - in everything I have ever tried. The buzz from winning I find exhilarating. Yes I can enjoy a good game of football but how many supporters leave a match they have drawn or lost fully satisfied because "it was a good performance?"
    I want Spurs to win the League - not so that I can crow to others but so I can feel the exultation of having us Champions
    For me the silverware is why we compete rather than becoming a Harlem Globe Trotters playing exhibition football. How many clubs and their supporters do not start the season wanting to reach the top of where their club could get (which differs for each). But a club like Spurs can reach for the number 1 spot.
    The same applies to England - otherwise why the 40 (now the near 80) years of hurt. Blow playing nice football - when we take on Germany at penalties we want to win.
     
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  2. Spurs61

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    I don't think it is fair to compare standards from different eras - it has improved immeasurably across the decades in every sport - not least because of professionalism. Each team can only compete against the opposition that exists then.
    There was no big 5 or 6 back in the 60s. From 1960 to 69, eight different teams won the league. Only Man U and Liverpool won it twice. That continued on into the 70s until Liverpool became the one and only team for nearly a decade until Heysal.
    The Premier League destroyed everything - sport is now just a business that billionaires use as playthings to keep them from their boredom. Unfortunately us fans - certainly ones who go back a few years- remember something quite different - and for me better.
     
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  3. Citizen Kane.

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    There were certainly clubs in the 60s who spent a lot more than the rest and Spurs were one of them.
    I agree with your last point....that's also why previous strategies for winning don't work. The only sure way is having more money. Spurs are actually well placed to improve in that regard but it won't be easy.
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

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    I can understand why people may agree with this, but it seems to be purely opinion based.
    Wigan score 15 points for governance, as do Spurs. They can't even pay their players.
     
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  6. The RDBD

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    By the fact that professional football is entertainment.
     
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  7. Citizen Kane.

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    I think it refers to governance per the fans rather than employees of the club, so things like ticket prices, access to tickets, laws of allocation and reallocation, laws within the stadium (I've certainly found it to be much stricter in the new stadium and on the few occasions I've been have been told off multiple times by stewards either for standing up or signing too loudly) etc.
     
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    Really? Maybe it's about where you are in the stadium?
    I've never had that happen and I'm in one of the quieter parts.
     
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  9. Citizen Kane.

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    Yeah I pretty much grab tickets wherever I can...not sure if the people I buy them from are allowed to sell them to me but hush hush don't tell the plod.

    I've been a few times in what was probably a family section and got told off for shouting too loudly (I couldn't help it, Sessegnon was playing). They also tell you off for standing if you're in one of the uppermost rows, as it is deemed a health and safety risk. You know, just in case you smuggle a paraglider in with you.
     
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    Yeah, I'm virtually on the pitch, so they probably don't care.
    I'm sure that the officials appreciate my input, though. <ok>
     
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  11. Citizen Kane.

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    I'll give you a wave when I next paraglide over that section.
     
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  12. The RDBD

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    Not easy for a linesman to go much of the game
    with "PleaseNotPoll likes this" stamped on them.
     
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  13. Spurs61

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    that itself is debateable
     
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  14. The RDBD

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    From the "bread and circus" of ancient Rome
    to the modern day "opiate of the masses" , a key
    role of sporting events in human society over
    the ages is well-known.
     
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  15. Spurs61

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    yes - but you do know it is Spurs you are talklng about here.
    Do you know any team that set out not to win when it entered a competition? Entertainment yes, rewards financial and other yes.
    So to suggest that "all that should matter" is entertainment is not a view all would agree with

    oh - and I thought that it was religion rather than sport which was called the opiate of the masses
     
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  16. KingHotspur

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    If winning didn’t matter then we wouldn’t keep score
     
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    This might end up being wide of the mark, but has anyone else noticed that we seem to be leaning towards a Portuguese blueprint going forward?

    Ruben Amorim is reportedly on the managerial shortlist, and now Sergio Conceicao is being linked
    Rui Pedro Braz was quickly named as a potential Paratici replacement
    We're certainly looking at Primeira Liga talent, most obviously signing Pedro Porro and making a bid for Luis Diaz

    Might be a coincidence, but then again it might not

    That'll be £6.99
     
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  18. Citizen Kane.

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    I sincerely hope not. The football played there is largely turgid crap.
     
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  19. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    All do not have to agree with me.

    A large enough % who are spending resources
    (time - which can never be reclaimed, and money -
    whose loss varies from person to person) , appear to.
     
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  20. Left on the Shelf

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    So, no change here then? <laugh>
     
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