The var thread

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st_brendy said:
I can't decide what was worse yesterday between that, and the Burnley goal which was ruled out.

(Nothing to do with whether or not I thought it was a foul on Evans - more that, given how high the bar is, and therefore the decisions which they have decided not to overturn to date, how did that one get overturned?!)
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Yeah that one's baffling too, really don't see how that's any more clear and obvious than loads of penalties that haven't been given.
 
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----HistoryRepeating---- said:
It has saved us five goals, so it feels a little strange to critique it, but boy did it cause issues yesterday. Those poor Watford fans.......now they feel the pain <laugh>
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It has saved us 5 goals against. Imagine how bad our position would be if those goals had been allowed to stand.
Borderline decisions, that if not overturned, could have had us anchored in the bottom three. Just shows the impact human error can have on a team.
 
st_brendy said:
The tackle on Origi.
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Just before Utd's goal? I don't believe it was a foul, I think Origi felt the defender and threw himself forwards. That's not to say it wouldn't have been given outside of OT, it must have been a shock for him for it not be given. Just my view, I only ever played cricket.
 
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It's Only A Game said:
Just before Utd's goal? I don't believe it was a foul, I think Origi felt the defender and threw himself forwards. That's not to say it wouldn't have been given outside of OT, it must have been a shock for him for it not be given. Just my view, I only ever played cricket.
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I can't see how you can have different outcomes for that and the Burnley one. Hardly consistent is it.
 
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Libby said:
I can't see how you can have different outcomes for that and the Burnley one. Hardly consistent is it.
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No it's not and the reason is, as we've said before, the decisions are still being made by human beings. There will be inconsistencies because it is still a matter of opinion, and is still open to bias. It's not going to be the great leveller that people claimed it would be and I'm not convinced it will be better as time goes by.
With VAR in place it's just added another source of arguement. It used to be just the ref on the pitch you might disagree with, now you have the ref on the pitch and the one using VAR somewhere up the M25 (or wherever it is).
 
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It's Only A Game said:
Just before Utd's goal? I don't believe it was a foul, I think Origi felt the defender and threw himself forwards. That's not to say it wouldn't have been given outside of OT, it must have been a shock for him for it not be given. Just my view, I only ever played cricket.
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Complete agreement, he lost control, got a flick in the inside of his calf and flopped to the ground. When did football become on non-contact sport?
 
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VAR is doing a great job so far. All the doom and gloom predicted here and elsewhere has not come to fruition and now we see really picky comments trying to justify previous statements deriding its useage.
 
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It's Only A Game said:
No it's not and the reason is, as we've said before, the decisions are still being made by human beings. There will be inconsistencies because it is still a matter of opinion, and is still open to bias. It's not going to be the great leveller that people claimed it would be and I'm not convinced it will be better as time goes by.
With VAR in place it's just added another source of arguement. It used to be just the ref on the pitch you might disagree with, now you have the ref on the pitch and the one using VAR somewhere up the M25 (or wherever it is).
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Exactly.

The new subjective decision now is 'was it enough of a foul' so it still doesn't clear anything up and leaves it open to bias.

I don't see how it's ever going to remove the doubt like people said it would.
 
Romsey_Saint said:
VAR is doing a great job so far. All the doom and gloom predicted here and elsewhere has not come to fruition and now we see really picky comments trying to justify previous statements deriding its useage.
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How is asking why it's not giving blatant penalties being 'picky'?

You're telling me you expected to be 90 matches in without it overturning a single penalty decision?


Surprised to see you say that tbh as most of the people I know who were/are for it are saying that they've ****ed up the implementation.
 
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Libby said:
Exactly.

The new subjective decision now is 'was it enough of a foul' so it still doesn't clear anything up and leaves it open to bias.

I don't see how it's ever going to remove the doubt like people said it would.
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Its removed plenty of doubt that would have otherwise hurt teams like us with offsides, handballs etc so far this season.

Its removed alot of referreeing bias we have seen applied to the top clubs-a fantastic leveller.
 
Libby said:
How is asking why it's not giving blatant penalties being 'picky'?

You're telling me you expected to be 90 matches in without it overturning a single penalty decision?


Surprised to see you say that tbh as most of the people I know who were/are for it are saying that they've ****ed up the implementation.
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I think its been implemented very well, given its never been applied before.
 
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