The Third Meeting.

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Really, The Mirrors in the Ladies Dunnies have been Installed, Great, Kemp;ton will be pleased.:emoticon-0135-makeu
Oi <laugh>

Edit : I've finally had a dump by the way. After four days. That's 4 ****ing days!

I was beginning to think I might need an enema.

Never do Imodium. NEVER DO IMODIUM!
 
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Oi <laugh>

Edit : I've finally had a dump by the way. After four days. That's 4 ****ing days!

I was beginning to think I might need an enema.

Never do Imodium. NEVER DO IMODIUM!
I understand completely, And it does'nt help when only yesterday in the till queue in Bodycare, the weird bloke in front of me , slapped 18 pkts of anal suppostries on the counter ,
to pay for , I had to laugh out loud to. The look on the face of the young lass at the till , swiping them off 1 by 1. Priceless. 20 of the damn things in a pkt and He purchaces 18 pkts. That gives the weekly shop a whole another meaning.
 
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Geoff and the Trust should encourage as much protests as possible and withdraw all dialogue with the Allams.

There is no point. They will only consider fair and moral pricing if we're in the premier league, which isn't happening.
 
I understand completely, And it does'nt help when only yesterday in the till queue in Bodycare, the weird bloke in front of me , slapped 18 pkts of anal suppostries on the counter ,
to pay for , I had to laugh out loud to. The look on the face of the young lass at the till , swiping them off 1 by 1. Priceless. 20 of the damn things in a pkt and He purchaces 18 pkts. That gives the weekly shop a whole another meaning.
As the (very) old joke goes, 'for all the good those pills did I might as well have stuck 'em up my arse'.

Sorry...
 
As I’ve said previously on this thread I think the Allams were offended by being presented with those scarves. They just simply kept their powder dry until they needed an excuse to use it. Yesterday gave them that opportunity.

MoH
And you think that despite Ehab saying on the website that the scarves weren’t the issue. I think the agenda is in your head, not with Ehab.
 
I assume the Allams want to force the Trust to encourage a protest amnesty again. That would show the owner’s power over the oiks

Having been involved in many negotiations I personally think it’s time to push back

I’d suggest the following

1. Reiterate publicly that the Trust haven’t encouraged future protests, merely stated that Geoff ‘fears’ they may occur
2. Remind people that saying he ‘fears’ they may occur makes it very clear that he doesn’t want them to occur...otherwise he would have used the word ‘hope’
3. Remind people that the only people that can actually resolve the issues being discussed are the owners as this isn’t a negotiation in the sense that workplace negotiations are. There’s no ACAS it is entirely down to the owners discretion what they want to do or not
4. Point out that the meeting would have been fairly pointless anyway because Ehab had already gone in the media to state his new ‘conditions’ and because he hadn’t shared them with the Trust before the meeting they wouldn’t have had time to respond to them in detail so another meeting would have been needed anyway
5. Produce detailed responses to how concessions could be ‘policed’ whilst reminding everyone that they have already given the club the way that it could be cost neutral, but the club haven’t responded to that proposal yet (I think?)
6. Produce more detailed brand guidelines to make the use of the name prescriptive so even the most confused reader can understand them
7. Produce a consultation plan for the badge, with very clear questions that should be asked. One being ‘should the name Hull City be used on the badge’
8. Publish all the above
9. State the Trust are happy to meet when the club give them something in writing to consider in response to their proposals, but that a meeting before there is something for Trust members can consider the club’s stance would be pointless
You’ve got my vote to join the Board, Dennis.
 
Of course it's relevant, which is why a statement confirming he did it on behalf of the Hull City Action Group has subsequently Ben issued.

He was there to represent HCST, not play errand boy. What made him think, yeah this is just thing to bring to a meeting? He handed them the ace of trumps to play the next time they sat round the table.

The excuse they needed. Bad move.
 
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And you think that despite Ehab saying on the website that the scarves weren’t the issue. I think the agenda is in your head, not with Ehab.

I suggest you reread the statement. He said they had overlooked it. Not the same as not being the issue. As I have said (clearly, I thought) the scarves added to the article gave them (their interpretation) the impetus to cancel yesterday’s meeting.

So no, not in my head.

MoH
 
The talk of the scarf isn’t that relevant of course

The Allams were quite happy to continue negotiating 6 weeks after that ‘gift’
Why it was only a few hours before the meeting that Ehab said all the things he was going to do to resolve concessions, the name and the badge.
So he was well on track despite a scarf

So do people think the article was threatening enough to ‘put a gun to his head’ ? Because that’s the reason he gave for cancelling the meeting...not the scarf

For the record I don’t

Very sensible post. Ehab obviously got that statement out so people would think he was on track but all along he intended cancelling using the other stuff as an excuse.
 
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I suggest you reread the statement. He said they had overlooked it. Not the same as not being the issue. As I have said (clearly, I thought) the scarves added to the article gave them (their interpretation) the impetus to cancel yesterday’s meeting.

So no, not in my head.

MoH

Yesterday was the third meeting, they were given the scarves at the start of the first meeting, it quite obviously wasn't a reason to cancel.

Neither was the previous days article.

They just came up with a bogus reason, as they'd run out of excuses for not actually implementing anything.
 
Every Hull City fan wanting the Allams out of our club should be preoccupied with two thoughts: what would the Allams most want us to do and what would the Allams least want us to do. I'm not pretending that there are easy answers to those two questions, particularly the latter. But we know they enjoy being given reasons to play the wounded party, however ludicrous that may be given their conduct over the past five or six years.

By turning up to the meetings with a sensible agenda, the HCST have played a masterstroke. You know that the Allams would love to be able to say 'well we opened dialogue and they weren't interested so what more can we do?'. We all know that the meetings have been a charade, but by attending and making their objectives clear and reasonable, Geoff and the HCST team have done a great job. However, the scarves thing was ill-advised. Regardless of how they were received at the time, regardless of the intent, they gave the Allams some ammunition. Senseless, needless ammunition. What purpose did handing over the scarves have? I despaired when I first read about it. The HCST were doing what the Allams would have wanted them to do.

That said, it's a minor issue and not one that should be dwelled upon. As Al Rawdah and Dennis have rightly said, the meeting wasn't cancelled because of this. My theory is that it was cancelled because Ehab had made some comments regarding a less ridiculous stance on concessions and the club name, and Assem didn't like it. But that is just a theory. The scarf story will be seized upon by the handful of Allam apologists out there (including David Prutton, possibly, the bell end) which is irritating, but it shouldn't detract from the very good job that he HCST continue to do. Cancelling the meeting at the last second like that was a nasty, spiteful thing to do irrespective of anything else. But then the Allams are nasty, spiteful people.