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Which Club should we Sell Sterling to?

  • Manchester City??

    Votes: 27 54.0%
  • Chelsea?

    Votes: 8 16.0%
  • Arsenal

    Votes: 9 18.0%
  • Manhester United

    Votes: 8 16.0%
  • None of the above(Must go to Overseas Club.

    Votes: 12 24.0%
  • MITO is a ****!

    Votes: 4 8.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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Raheem Sterling: Liverpool should not be held to ransom over forward
Raheem Sterling's fragile relationship with Liverpool may be broken beyond repair when he tells manager Brendan Rodgers he wants to leave Anfield when they meet later this week.
Liverpool have always been steadfast in their determination to keep Sterling despite the 20-year-old's obvious and public reluctance to sign a new deal worth £100,000-a-week.
Sterling, it seems, is equally determined to leave in a development which will come as another bitter blow to Liverpool as they recover from the impending departure of captain Steven Gerrard to LA Galaxy and the collapse of a season that saw them lose to Aston Villa in an FA Cup semi-final and fail to reach the Champions League.
So is Sterling right to want to leave? And why should Liverpool and Rodgers be held to ransom by a youngster, albeit a talented one, who still has so much to prove?
Why would Sterling want to leave?
Sterling and his camp have insisted all along that the contract impasse that has provided a sideshow to the concluding weeks of Liverpool's season has not, and never has been, about money.
It is a version of events that has been treated with open suspicion by Liverpool's supporters but if this is the case - and we must take Sterling's words at face value - why would he want to leave?


Real Madrid-bound?

"Sterling is a name that would cause mild curiosity at the Bernabeu rather than any sense of excitement."
Sterling states his wish is to play his football at the highest level, presumably Champions League.
Liverpool would be within their rights to point out to Sterling that he had Champions League football at Anfield this season and hardly excelled as they went out at the group stage - and more consistent form on his part may have even resulted in a place in the Premier League's top four and qualification next season.
Europa League football is not the stuff of glamour but Sterling has plenty of time to put that right at Liverpool, so has his head been turned by the departures of world-class talent such as Luis Suarez and Gerrard?
In an exclusive interview with BBC Sport recently, he said: "You really want to be working with world-class players day in, day out. It's obviously left a little dent with these two world-class superstars leaving but I think we have good players coming through."
Not enough, it seems, to want to give Liverpool another season.
What does this mean for Liverpool?
Initially it will be a blow, coming hard on the heels of those end of season disappointments - but Rodgers and owners Fenway Sports Group have a key factor in their favour.
Sterling is liked but not loved at Liverpool and even that goodwill has been eroded in recent times. He does not have the status or stature of an Anfield superstar and if he departed, it is unlikely to be a cause for widespread mourning among fans.
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Sterling has scored 11 goals in all competitions this season - one behind Steven Gerrard
Liverpool's supporters would back Rodgers and FSG for taking a firm stand and ordering Sterling to stay - and the vast majority would also accept the Anfield hierarchy taking a decent offer for a player who is gifted but by no means the finished article.
The loss of any talented player, especially a young England international, is not welcome at a club with Liverpool's scale of ambition but this would not be regarded as a departure in the category of a Suarez or a Gerrard. Not in the same league.
How will Liverpool's fans react?

Archive: Sterling not 'money-grabbing 20-year-old'
It would not cause a crisis at Liverpool.
Do not expect an outpouring of grief if Sterling leaves or any rage aimed in the direction of Liverpool's owners and manager.
Liverpool's fans would accept the loss and move on. They would also be happy for Sterling to stay but he would have a lot of making up to do.
There has been growing discontent regarding Sterling from Liverpool's fans when he has not delivered in recent weeks and the initial reaction on social media when the news broke veered from anger at his perceived disloyalty and greed, to supreme indifference as to whether he stays or goes.
If he stays, Liverpool's supporters will live with it, even though he will have work to do to make up the goodwill he has lost, and if he leaves it is unlikely any tears will be shed, especially if Liverpool can rake in around £35m.
Could Liverpool have done any more?
Other than offering Sterling a contract worth £100,000-a-week and delivering the chance to flourish as a first-team regular, in a team that almost won the Premier League last season, what else could they have given him?
Manager Rodgers even allowed Sterling to take a mid-season break in Jamaica to recharge his batteries and guard against any burnout later in the campaign.
Liverpool's contract offer seems more than reasonable for a player at this stage in his career.
It would seem, then, that Liverpool's failure is not qualifying for the Champions League or some hitherto hidden breakdown in his relationship with Rodgers.
Sterling has played his part, or not, in Liverpool not making the top four and it is hard to see how Rodgers could have treated him any better.
There is no mileage in Sterling suggesting he has not been protected from negative headlines by Liverpool, as the most eye-catching publicity and biggest reaction came from an interview with BBC Sport's Natalie Pirks - an interview he conducted without the club's permission.
Has Sterling let Rodgers down?
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Brendan Rodgers has not publicly criticised Raheem Sterling over his contract saga
Rodgers will be disappointed by Sterling's demand to leave and he will feel a genuine sense of disappointment after nurturing the youngster and giving him his chance of regular football as a teenager.
He has always steered clear from criticising Sterling amid the negative headlines around his contract, instead questioning the advice he has been receiving from his representatives.
Rodgers may feel let down at getting the word from Sterling about his desire to leave Liverpool - but being a realist he may have sensed it was coming.
Where could Sterling go?
If Liverpool do agree to sell, and this is not an inevitability, then it is hard to see any serious interest from the sort of names abroad that would interest either Sterling or his representatives.
Barcelona are well catered for with a superstar attacking trio of Lionel Messi, Suarez and Neymar, so the idea of a move to the Nou Camp comes from the realms of fantasy.
Zinedine Zidane, who is on the coaching staff at Real Madrid, says they are "monitoring" Sterling but he is hardly the sort of 'Galactico' figure they will be looking to as they recover from failure to win La Liga and losing their hold on the Champions League following defeat by Juventus in the semi-final.
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Manchester City's Manuel Pellegrini is one manager who could be tempted to make a move for the unsettled Sterling
Sterling is a name that would cause mild curiosity at the Bernabeu rather than any sense of excitement.
Bayern Munich have been mentioned but, again, is Sterling a big enough name, or advanced enough as a talent, to go to the Allianz and make the difference?
This leaves the Premier League - namely Manchester City, Chelsea and Arsenal.
City are looking to revive their squad with young talent, with manager Manuel Pellegrini saying they may focus on English names, while Sterling fits the template Arsenal would look for, especially if Theo Walcott cannot agree a new contract.
Would Mourinho want Sterling? A possibility but, again, would he fit into a line-up alongside Eden Hazard?
Manchester City look likely candidates but would they be persuaded to part with the £35m - or even more - Liverpool would want?
So many questions to answer.
How will it all end?
One thing is certain. Liverpool owner John W Henry will not be bounced into a sale, bullied by requests to leave or held to ransom by Sterling and his representative Aidy Ward.
Nor should he be.
Henry demonstrated he can be intransigent when Suarez tried to engineer a move to Arsenal in 2013. He stood firm, refused to sell and eventually Suarez came back into the fold with spectacular results.
Sterling, however, is not a Suarez. Henry, in conjunction with Rodgers and the rest of the Liverpool hierarchy, may regard this as a different case and one where a big offer may be worth considering.
It will be played out over the coming weeks but if Sterling goes it will be on Liverpool's terms - and if he stays he has work to do to repair his relationship with those who make the final judgement at Anfield, namely the fans.
 
I do agree with you in most parts - just merely adding the other side of the argument.

But whilst fans may want to focus their anger on Sterling, I want to focus on the reasons for him wanting to leave. Because it's in a mediocre and vulnerable state. That's the real issue behind this.

He was on £35k last year but he wasn't quick to leave then. If we had finished 2nd this season, I doubt he would have kicked up like this.

As I say, everyone is at fault - Sterling, his agent, the club (maybe not for the negotiations but for the position we're now in). <ok>

Not sure if serious? Try phrasing that sentence like this...."Raheem was on £35k and within a year we're offering him £100k and a free ****ing holiday every xmas despite him not playing very well" <laugh> Had we finished top four this year the lad would have been asking for Falcao-esque wages (their performances and effort haven't been that far apart this year in fairness).
 
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For the record I'd keep him if he renews. But he needs to drop the agent.

Where else will he play 30/40 games?
Where else will he be an important player?

Let's think, who would want him...

Madrid - NO
Barca - NO
Atletico - NO
Bayern - NO
Chelsea - NO

So that leaves

Utd - We will never sell him to them
Chelsea - Very unlikely to succeed there - graveyard for youth
City - Very unlikely to succeed there - competition + don't play wingers

So that leaves Arsenal. Not sure what Raheem dreams about but if he wants CL and PL titles he's as likely here as there. Neither of us are getting one any time soon. Only difference is Arsenal are in the draw. He may develop much better here however - look at the stagnation of Walcott and Oxo. In fact when did Arsenal last create a real world class player?

And would Arsenal fans be happy blowing £40m on him instead of signing Bender, Higuain etc quality?

EDIT: Think what Carra said last night is spot on. He has the world at his feet and noone will begrudge an eventual move but he had a big part to play in our season and largely disappointed. Yes he had far too much responsibility but he missed many easy chances that cost us big and has barely turned up since April.
 
For the record I'd keep him if he renews. But he needs to drop the agent.

Where else will he play 30/40 games?
Where else will he be an important player?

Let's think, who would want him...

Madrid - NO
Barca - NO
Atletico - NO
Bayern - NO
Chelsea - NO

So that leaves

Utd - We will never sell him to them
Chelsea - Very unlikely to succeed there - graveyard for youth
City - Very unlikely to succeed there - competition + don't play wingers

So that leaves Arsenal. Not sure what Raheem dreams about but if he wants CL and PL titles he's as likely here as there. Neither of us are getting one any time soon. Only difference is Arsenal are in the draw. He may develop much better here however - look at the stagnation of Walcott and Oxo. In fact when did Arsenal last create a real world class player?

And would Arsenal fans be happy blowing £40m on him instead of signing Bender, Higuain etc quality?

True but he could stay and continue to play out of position, thus hampering his development?

It's not a case of simply playing more mins = good development. <ok>

And also, Rodgers was apparently this amazing coach who got the best out of youngsters. So why has Raheem regressed this season? ...
 
True but he could stay and continue to play out of position, thus hampering his development?

It's not a case of simply playing more mins = good development. <ok>

And also, Rodgers was apparently this amazing coach who got the best out of youngsters. So why has Raheem regressed this season? ...

Don't think he'll be up front if he's here in August. Was there out of necessity. Think everyone wants him out left or at the top of the diamond.

Think Raheem's performance is dictated a lot by who's round him. His best attribute is beating a man and playing the early pass. No Suarez or Sturridge and he's pretty aimless.
 
If he leaves he will go to a London club and be like Jeffers, remember him? One good season and he was off to the big time at Arsenal....that went well.

I think that is the main issue, he wants to return to London. He (or his agent) as probably already been talking too.
 
Carra from BBC...

'Former Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher, who played 737 times for the Reds, has expressed his anger at Sterling's actions.

"For a 20-year-old kid to be taking on Liverpool Football Club over a contract - to the pit of my stomach that just winds me up, it angers me," said Carragher on Sky Sports.

"If it's about trophies, Liverpool had a chance for a trophy this year - in the FA Cup semi-final at Wembley against Aston Villa. Where was Sterling?

"To do what he's done now, there's nothing worse than that. You keep your mouth shut - get on with playing football."'


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The thing is, he is getting **** advice from his agent.
Which team in the PL is going to pay him MORE than 100k p/w?
I hope to god not Chelsea, as I have already stated, we have better players on half the money.
Even City with FFP, even if they can afford to sign him, would they want a 100k a week journeyman on their books eating up a fair portion of their wage budget?
Barca and Madrid......<laugh> not a chance.

Reminds me a bit of the Rooney situation when he asked to move - you could just never really see anyone going for him.

Obviously it's a different situation insomuch as United are a bigger club than Liverpool, but did any of the clubs bigger than United actually want Rooney?
I don't blame Sterling for wanting to move to a big club, but certainly he wouldn't get near Chelsea or Man City's first team - Arsenal on paper is his best bet and probably where he'd most like to go. But they have a lot of good midfielders already so he'd still have a lot of bench time - certainly until fully developed, as he does have potential.
Got a feeling that he'll be forced to swallow his pride and stay there next season.
 
I thought Carragher and Neville were excellent when they were discussing this on MNF. Because they are both one club men they see things like the fans do. Any footballer who has been involved in a transfer will just think Sterling is behaving in a very normal way.
 
True but he could stay and continue to play out of position, thus hampering his development?

It's not a case of simply playing more mins = good development. <ok>

And also, Rodgers was apparently this amazing coach who got the best out of youngsters. So why has Raheem regressed this season? ...

...because he's a sulky little brat? He's only "regressed" since his contract negotiations stalled <whistle>
 
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I'm not saying Sterling and his agent are saints. I think everyone looks like an idiot in this whole saga.

But, Sterling had said he wanted to wait until the end of the season to resume contract talks. Then the club leaked contract negotiations saying Sterling rejected it. Bullying is the wrong word, but I certainly do think he was pressured. Then you have Rodgers talking about his contract constantly throughout the season.

As I say, I'm not defending anyone - I think everyone looks bad.

And we all need to look at the crux of the problem - why does he want to leave? Whilst he is asking for a ridiculous amount, he IS one of the best players at the club. He is one of the best youngsters in world football. Why are in this position? Does anyone have faith in Rodgers to lead us to victory? To win trophies? He doesn't want to play for Rodgers - why not?

Do you have a positive bone lurking anywhere in your whole body? <laugh>
 
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