I agree that we should definitely be building the team around Coutinho but what's going to stop him from leaving in a years time after seeing other teammates leave?
And Sterling is one of the best prospects in world football - he scores goals, assists, creates chances and works hard/presses well. His stats are comparable to the bright talents in Europe and world class players like Ronaldo/Suarez at the same age. He is the best talent to come through the academy since Gerrard.
And as I say - I don't think this is about money. Do you think he wants to stay at Liverpool and win nothing, whilst playing with the likes of Lallana and Lambert?
If we offered him the cash he wants he'd play next to Rolf Harris and Gary Glitter. What happens if he signs a massive contract with us then has a decent first half of next season? You think his agent's not going to be pestering for another new contract? Talented he may be but he's nowhere near irreplacable especially given his current form on the pitch. Even Lallana and Lambert have given us more in the last few months (and that really isn't saying much).....in fact as poor as they are I'd rather pay my money to watch those two because at least I get the feeling they are trying their hardest and it's pretty clear Raheem isn't willing to do the same.Do us a graph demonstrating what Sterling should be paid in comparison to Sturridge. Probably best to do it over this and last season. If it was just based on this season Sterling would be due about £500k a week which is just shy of what Falcao is on (source: The Sisu Times).Sturridge earned that by being the 2nd highest goalscorer in the league and a rate of 0.7 goals/game.
Sturridge earned that by being the 2nd highest goalscorer in the league and a rate of 0.7 goals/game.
Sky sources understand Sterling feels aggrieved at the manner in which contract negotiations have been handled because he feels the club have tried to bully him into signing a new contract. He also does not think he has been sufficiently protected him from negative headlines.
Jeez you wums can't even see that a golden chance to wum the whole lfc board is here and you end up playing with astro.... again... over graphs..
get back on program! don't let him distract you from this. I suggest a small club can't keep hold of players line.
Fair point. Playing devil's advocate.
But Sterling was brilliant at the back end of last season and carried our attack for the first half of this season with very little support.
Like it or not, he's still one of our best players in the team (regardless of age).
This is not a defence of Sterling - more of an indictment of the club but spunking money up the wall on Lallana and Mario.
Throwing money at Sterling is as likely to hamper the future development as it is to solve it. What happens if Ibe or Sinclair have a good year next year? Do they come knocking for £100grand plus too? It's unsustainable, it's unrealistic and it's unjustified what the lad expects us to pay him. He isn't anywhere near world class, he misses a lot more than he scores, he has a left foot that's as effective as nettles for treating thrush and his commitment has been none existent all season.
Do you really think he gives a **** who he's playing next to?If we offered him the cash he wants he'd play next to Rolf Harris and Gary Glitter. What happens if he signs a massive contract with us then has a decent first half of next season? You think his agent's not going to be pestering for another new contract? Talented he may be but he's nowhere near irreplacable especially given his current form on the pitch. In fact even Lallana and Lambert have given us more in the last few months (and that really isn't saying much).....in fact as poor as they are I'd rather pay my money to watch those two because at least I get the feeling they are trying their hardest and it's pretty clear Raheem isn't willing to do the same.
I agree - I don't believe in giving him stupid amounts. But that's the position this club is in. Why? Because Rodgers has made us sh*t and bought crap replacements for Suarez in the form of Lallana and Mario. Regardless of age, Sterling is one of our best players which is why he feels he can command high wages relative to his stature at the club.
And yes, I do think he cares about who plays alongside - not everything is about money. You make it sound like we're offering him money for a great opportunity to stay at Liverpool. We're not - we're offering him a deal to stay to potentially win nothing, continue playing with mediocre players, and being played out of position. Is that good for his development?
And why were these negotiations leaked to the press? ...
Everyone looks bad in this case, and we shouldn't instantly think that the club are the good guys in all of this. Something that Tony Barrett from The Times alluded to.
I'm hardly shy in criticising the whole ****ing lot of them am I really? In this case however I'm 100% supportive of them not throwing any more money at this lad. Even the most anti-Liverpool folk can see this kids best interests would be served at Anfield for at least another couple of seasons. 
...because the club knew ages ago he was angling for either a massive wage or a move? Whoever leaked it, agent or club, I couldn't care less. Let's not pretend Raheem is "all upset because LFC leaked his contract negotiations". He'd already turned down an offer that most of us feel was the very top end of what he's currently worth.
Jimmy you talk as if I'm loathe to criticise the clubI'm hardly shy in criticising the whole ****ing lot of them am I really? In this case however I'm 100% supportive of them not throwing any more money at this lad. Even the most anti-Liverpool folk can see this kids best interests would be served at Anfield for at least another couple of seasons.
He simply isn't worth any more (if he's even worth that) and frankly I really don't see what else club or manager should be doing to try and get him to stay. You can criticise Rodgers as part of your agenda but here's a lad who was given total faith by the manager on the pitch, here's a lad who the manager has been almost nauseating in his regular praise of, here's a lad the manager gave a ****ING HOLIDAY to mid-season.....and here's a lad who's about to cry about "how badly treated he's been".....wake up Jimmy![]()

...because the club knew ages ago he was angling for either a massive wage or a move? Whoever leaked it, agent or club, I couldn't care less. Let's not pretend Raheem is "all upset because LFC leaked his contract negotiations". He'd already turned down an offer that most of us feel was the very top end of what he's currently worth.
Jimmy you talk as if I'm loathe to criticise the clubI'm hardly shy in criticising the whole ****ing lot of them am I really? In this case however I'm 100% supportive of them not throwing any more money at this lad. Even the most anti-Liverpool folk can see this kids best interests would be served at Anfield for at least another couple of seasons.
He simply isn't worth any more (if he's even worth that) and frankly I really don't see what else club or manager should be doing to try and get him to stay. You can criticise Rodgers as part of your agenda but here's a lad who was given total faith by the manager on the pitch, here's a lad who the manager has been almost nauseating in his regular praise of, here's a lad the manager gave a ****ING HOLIDAY to mid-season.....and here's a lad who's about to cry about "how badly treated he's been".....wake up Jimmy![]()

Sturridge on 140k, I am still shell shocked!! Thats the same amount as Costa and I thought that was too much.

I agree - I don't believe in giving him stupid amounts. But that's the position this club is in. Why? Because Rodgers has made us sh*t and bought crap replacements for Suarez in the form of Lallana and Mario. Regardless of age, Sterling is one of our best players which is why he feels he can command high wages relative to his stature at the club.
And yes, I do think he cares about who plays alongside - not everything is about money. You make it sound like we're offering him money for a great opportunity to stay at Liverpool. We're not - we're offering him a deal to stay to potentially win nothing, continue playing with mediocre players, and being played out of position. Is that good for his development?
Maybe we should have developed him into being worth £240 ****ing grand a week? Is that what you think he's moaning about?
) and we were **** under Woy (according to all)....oh and we were pretty **** the last couple of years under Rafa too. Rodgers has just been a steady hand at maintaining the ****ness Throwing money at Sterling is as likely to hamper the future development as it is to solve it. What happens if Ibe or Sinclair have a good year next year? Do they come knocking for £100grand plus too? It's unsustainable, it's unrealistic and it's unjustified what the lad expects us to pay him. He isn't anywhere near world class, he misses a lot more than he scores, he has a left foot that's as effective as nettles for treating thrush and his commitment has been none existent all season.
Do us a graph demonstrating what Sterling should be paid in comparison to Sturridge. Probably best to do it over this and last season. If it was just based on this season Sterling would be due about £500k a week which is just shy of what Falcao is on (source: The Sisu Times).
Good for his development????.....Raheem obviously thinks he's been developed enough by us that he's now worth £180 ****ing grand a week though ehMaybe we should have developed him into being worth £240 ****ing grand a week? Is that what you think he's moaning about?
Rodgers hasn't made us **** by the way....we were **** under Kenny (according to some) and we were **** under Woy (according to all)....oh and we were pretty **** the last couple of years under Rafa too. Rodgers has just been a steady hand at maintaining the ****ness
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