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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Tobes, May 18, 2015.

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Which Club should we Sell Sterling to?

Poll closed Aug 19, 2015.
  1. Manchester City??

    27 vote(s)
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  2. Chelsea?

    8 vote(s)
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  3. Arsenal

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  4. Manhester United

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  5. None of the above(Must go to Overseas Club.

    12 vote(s)
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  6. MITO is a ****!

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  1. Gucci.Mane

    Gucci.Mane Active Member

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    Spot on there Mito^^, he's deluding himself if he thinks going to another "Big" team that he'll be anything other than squad player.Not worth over 100k a week, attitude stinks goodbye good riddance.
     
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  2. Bodinki

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    The thing is, he is getting **** advice from his agent.
    Which team in the PL is going to pay him MORE than 100k p/w?
    I hope to god not Chelsea, as I have already stated, we have better players on half the money.
    Even City with FFP, even if they can afford to sign him, would they want a 100k a week journeyman on their books eating up a fair portion of their wage budget?
    Barca and Madrid......<laugh> not a chance.
    So I don't really know what his options will be, unless he wanted to leave Liverpool all along to play in the CL and this 100k+ per week demand was just an excuse so that he could leave. Where ever he goes, he will have to accept less than that I am afraid, and I have a feeling that has always been the case.

    He can't seriously expect any club to pay more than that? I mean he is a talented kid, but thats silly money, unless you are someone of Hazards ilk, and even he is 4 years older.
    I smell something fishy here.
     
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  3. Peej

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    'It (his contract) is something the club are speaking with his representatives on and I would think that would be concluded very imminently,' said Rodgers.
    'The player is very happy. It (the delay) is nothing to do with Raheem, he wants to be here so hopefully we get the solution on that very soon.'
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    My feeling is that Sterling wants nothing more than to move away from Liverpool. If he were after the cash and European football then an extension of 1-2 years at Liverpool woul dhave been ideal. Some reports are stating that others are looking at getting away from Liverpool(I know just reports)

    So either Sterling is the bad apple or something is wrong at Liverpool?
     
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  5. luvgonzo

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    The speculation around this isn't helping the lad for all we know he's the victim of his agents greed and he may well want to stay.

    I remain unchanged, if he wants to go the club need to get that from the horses mouth and then put him on the transfer market, that in itself is a statement. If he wants to stay he needs to agree the contract quickly and sack his agent the day it's all the done.
     
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  6. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Don't kid yourself Reggy, its more about money than fame, he's not stupid and knows he'll be a bench warmer at a top club or a part time domestic cup player.

    If he does believe in his own hype he can't see the wood for the trees, but its gone to far now for him to stay, if the club are daft enough to up their pay offer and he stays the crowd will be on his case constantly because he's become a lazy bastard this season and the free mid-season holiday in the sun has more than likely caused **** with other players behind the scenes and Rodgers constantly kissing his arse to the press and putting importance on him has certainly gone to his head.
     
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  7. astro

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    The point isn't he gets more than £100k going to another club, the point is the agent gets a nice big signing on bonus instead of a smaller fee to sign a new contract.

    £35m abroad or £45m domestic #deal
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Lukaku's agent?
     
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  10. Stan

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    Rodgers said he was the best young player in Europe. Sterling's agent could well have used that in contract negotiations. It was a daft thing for Rodgers to say.
     
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    He said "at the moment". That moment was 1 year ago.

    #fail
     
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    Rodgers says a lot of daft things.
     
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  13. Stan

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    Fair enough. Rodgers back tracks on that statement and the player is insulted. Whichever way you look at it, it was a daft thing to say.

    Your absolute loyalty to Rodgers is both admirable and pathetic.
     
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    McNutly must have been up all night.<laugh>

    Phil McNultyCHIEF FOOTBALL WRITER, BBC SPORT

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    Raheem Sterling: Liverpool should not be held to ransom over forward

    Raheem Sterling's fragile relationship with Liverpool may be broken beyond repair when he tells manager Brendan Rodgers he wants to leave Anfield when they meet later this week.

    Liverpool have always been steadfast in their determination to keep Sterling despite the 20-year-old's obvious and public reluctance to sign a new deal worth £100,000-a-week.

    Sterling, it seems, is equally determined to leave in a development which will come as another bitter blow to Liverpool as they recover from the impending departure of captain Steven Gerrard to LA Galaxy and the collapse of a season that saw them lose to Aston Villa in an FA Cup semi-final and fail to reach the Champions League.

    So is Sterling right to want to leave? And why should Liverpool and Rodgers be held to ransom by a youngster, albeit a talented one, who still has so much to prove?

    Why would Sterling want to leave?
    Sterling and his camp have insisted all along that the contract impasse that has provided a sideshow to the concluding weeks of Liverpool's season has not, and never has been, about money.

    It is a version of events that has been treated with open suspicion by Liverpool's supporters but if this is the case - and we must take Sterling's words at face value - why would he want to leave?

    Real Madrid-bound?
    "Sterling is a name that would cause mild curiosity at the Bernabeu rather than any sense of excitement."

    Sterling states his wish is to play his football at the highest level, presumably Champions League.

    Liverpool would be within their rights to point out to Sterling that he had Champions League football at Anfield this season and hardly excelled as they went out at the group stage - and more consistent form on his part may have even resulted in a place in the Premier League's top four and qualification next season.

    Europa League football is not the stuff of glamour but Sterling has plenty of time to put that right at Liverpool, so has his head been turned by the departures of world-class talent such as Luis Suarez and Gerrard?

    In an exclusive interview with BBC Sport recently, he said: "You really want to be working with world-class players day in, day out. It's obviously left a little dent with these two world-class superstars leaving but I think we have good players coming through."

    Not enough, it seems, to want to give Liverpool another season.

    What does this mean for Liverpool?
    Initially it will be a blow, coming hard on the heels of those end of season disappointments - but Rodgers and owners Fenway Sports Group have a key factor in their favour.

    Sterling is liked but not loved at Liverpool and even that goodwill has been eroded in recent times. He does not have the status or stature of an Anfield superstar and if he departed, it is unlikely to be a cause for widespread mourning among fans.


    Sterling has scored 11 goals in all competitions this season - one behind Steven Gerrard

    Liverpool's supporters would back Rodgers and FSG for taking a firm stand and ordering Sterling to stay - and the vast majority would also accept the Anfield hierarchy taking a decent offer for a player who is gifted but by no means the finished article.

    The loss of any talented player, especially a young England international, is not welcome at a club with Liverpool's scale of ambition but this would not be regarded as a departure in the category of a Suarez or a Gerrard. Not in the same league.

    How will Liverpool's fans react?
    Play media
    Archive: Sterling not 'money-grabbing 20-year-old'

    It would not cause a crisis at Liverpool.

    Do not expect an outpouring of grief if Sterling leaves or any rage aimed in the direction of Liverpool's owners and manager.

    Liverpool's fans would accept the loss and move on. They would also be happy for Sterling to stay but he would have a lot of making up to do.

    There has been growing discontent regarding Sterling from Liverpool's fans when he has not delivered in recent weeks and the initial reaction on social media when the news broke veered from anger at his perceived disloyalty and greed, to supreme indifference as to whether he stays or goes.

    If he stays, Liverpool's supporters will live with it, even though he will have work to do to make up the goodwill he has lost, and if he leaves it is unlikely any tears will be shed, especially if Liverpool can rake in around £35m.

    Could Liverpool have done any more?
    Other than offering Sterling a contract worth £100,000-a-week and delivering the chance to flourish as a first-team regular, in a team that almost won the Premier League last season, what else could they have given him?

    Manager Rodgers even allowed Sterling to take a mid-season break in Jamaica to recharge his batteries and guard against any burnout later in the campaign.

    Liverpool's contract offer seems more than reasonable for a player at this stage in his career.

    It would seem, then, that Liverpool's failure is not qualifying for the Champions League or some hitherto hidden breakdown in his relationship with Rodgers.

    Sterling has played his part, or not, in Liverpool not making the top four and it is hard to see how Rodgers could have treated him any better.

    There is no mileage in Sterling suggesting he has not been protected from negative headlines by Liverpool, as the most eye-catching publicity and biggest reaction came from an interview with BBC Sport's Natalie Pirks - an interview he conducted without the club's permission.

    Has Sterling let Rodgers down?

    Brendan Rodgers has not publicly criticised Raheem Sterling over his contract saga

    Rodgers will be disappointed by Sterling's demand to leave and he will feel a genuine sense of disappointment after nurturing the youngster and giving him his chance of regular football as a teenager.

    He has always steered clear from criticising Sterling amid the negative headlines around his contract, instead questioning the advice he has been receiving from his representatives.

    Rodgers may feel let down at getting the word from Sterling about his desire to leave Liverpool - but being a realist he may have sensed it was coming.

    Where could Sterling go?
    If Liverpool do agree to sell, and this is not an inevitability, then it is hard to see any serious interest from the sort of names abroad that would interest either Sterling or his representatives.

    Barcelona are well catered for with a superstar attacking trio of Lionel Messi, Suarez and Neymar, so the idea of a move to the Nou Camp comes from the realms of fantasy.

    Zinedine Zidane, who is on the coaching staff at Real Madrid, says they are "monitoring" Sterling but he is hardly the sort of 'Galactico' figure they will be looking to as they recover from failure to win La Liga and losing their hold on the Champions League following defeat by Juventus in the semi-final.


    Manchester City's Manuel Pellegrini is one manager who could be tempted to make a move for the unsettled Sterling

    Sterling is a name that would cause mild curiosity at the Bernabeu rather than any sense of excitement.

    Bayern Munich have been mentioned but, again, is Sterling a big enough name, or advanced enough as a talent, to go to the Allianz and make the difference?

    This leaves the Premier League - namely Manchester City, Chelsea and Arsenal.

    City are looking to revive their squad with young talent, with manager Manuel Pellegrini saying they may focus on English names, while Sterling fits the template Arsenal would look for, especially if Theo Walcott cannot agree a new contract.

    Would Mourinho want Sterling? A possibility but, again, would he fit into a line-up alongside Eden Hazard?

    Manchester City look likely candidates but would they be persuaded to part with the £35m - or even more - Liverpool would want?

    So many questions to answer.

    How will it all end?
    One thing is certain. Liverpool owner John W Henry will not be bounced into a sale, bullied by requests to leave or held to ransom by Sterling and his representative Aidy Ward.

    Nor should he be.

    Henry demonstrated he can be intransigent when Suarez tried to engineer a move to Arsenal in 2013. He stood firm, refused to sell and eventually Suarez came back into the fold with spectacular results.

    Sterling, however, is not a Suarez. Henry, in conjunction with Rodgers and the rest of the Liverpool hierarchy, may regard this as a different case and one where a big offer may be worth considering.

    It will be played out over the coming weeks but if Sterling goes it will be on Liverpool's terms - and if he stays he has work to do to repair his relationship with those who make the final judgement at Anfield, namely the fans.
     
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    No he didn't. #keepgrasping
     
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    Fair point Page...but it's a sad world when a youngster would rather get splinters in his arse and a load of dosh instead of trying to do the best in their chosen career and still earn crazy money.
     
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    So if he is no longer the best young player in europe.....why offer him £100k a week

    #epicfail
     
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    He's not one of the best youngsters in world football, he's not even the best youngster at Liverpool <ok> Funnily enough the best youngster at Liverpool signed a new contract a few months ago and seems perfectly happy to play for us (whoever the manager may be).

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    Losing Raheem but keeping Philippe....I can live with that :) This is the kid we need to build the team around and offer the silly money to not ruddy Sterling.
     
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    I agree this lad is worth a long term contract and a considerable wage in line with his ability.
     
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  20. Stan

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    I don't need to grasp at anything Astro. I don't support Liverpool so what Rodgers has done to the club this season and Sterling making it clear that he wants to leave the club isn't my problem.

    I'm not saying that Rodgers back tracked on the statement. I'm saying that when it came to contract negotiations the club either had to stand by Rodgers' statement but refuse to pay Sterling accordingly or they have to back track on it to justify the salary offer. Either way the club loses because Rodgers made a stupid statement.

    Rodgers has verbal diarrhea. He talks to every media outlet at every opportunity and repeatedly makes statements that come back to bite him in the arse. On this occasion he got overexcited at the prospect of his tactical genius winning the league and he said Sterling was the best young player in Europe at the moment (see what I did there?).

    Sterling's agent would have immediately latched onto that.

    When it came to contract negotiations the agent would have asked for wages to reflect Sterling's status as the best young player in Europe. That's his job. Liverpool refuse, the agent refers to Rodger's statement. The club either say he is the best young player in Europe but they won't make him the best paid young player in Europe or they say he's not the best young player in Europe hence the salary offer.

    Daft thing to say. Someone should tell him to shut the **** up. Or they might just sack him.
     
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