The Snodgrass thread...

[The Omega Man]

Okay, you, or TOM, who 'liked' your post, explain why they are and how they are supposed to achieve that.

What can an employer do to improve the service an employee gets from the NHS?

How can the landlord of a pub ensure their emplyees get the correct mental health care. I'm fascinated to know how this is done in the world of the living wage.

I liked it because, it is a subject that is quite current within parts of my industry. We can wear personal safety gear, risk assessments to prevent accidents and injuries, but the biggest cause of lost working days are stress related, in my industry. Employers are starting to look at ways to cut this down.

 

[StCloudTiger]

Okay, you, or TOM, who 'liked' your post, explain why they are and how they are supposed to achieve that.

What can an employer do to improve the service an employee gets from the NHS?

How can the landlord of a pub ensure their emplyees get the correct mental health care. I'm fascinated to know how this is done in the world of the living wage.

Team news?

 

[juleskaren]

Is he refusing to play and train or has he just said that he wants to leave so MS decided not to pick him?

I am sure Marco said that he would not pick a player that had not been training. To me that means Snodgrass has refused to even train with the team.

 

[Fez]

It appears the club sold him, against the Manager's wishes &, from how I perceive it, also against the player's wishes.

I think managers often don't want to lose a player, but they know they have to accept it. If asked, 'Do you want him to leave?' they will honestly say 'No'. But they know it also part and parcel of the game.

Hasn't OLM said Snodgrass asked to leave?

It just comes across that you are deliberately overstating what you do know and filling the gaps that you don't know with stuff designed to make the owners look like ****s. They are ****s, but making **** up, or embellishing it, masks the truth of it all.

 

[Fez]

I liked it because, it is a subject that is quite current within parts of my industry. We can wear personal safety gear, risk assessments to prevent accidents and injuries, but the biggest cause of lost working days are stress related, in my industry. Employers are starting to look at ways to cut this down.

People who work in your industry are usually specialist and reasonably high earners; I think you would agree your ranks are not populated by minimum or living wage employees. In their world it is easier to leave them to the care of the NHS. What SCB wants and expects is not the case as it stands - employer support is either contractual or voluntary, but certainly not compulsory.

 

[The Omega Man]

People who work in your industry are usually specialist and reasonably high earners; I think you would agree your ranks are not populated by minimum or living wage employees. In their world it is easier to leave them to the care of the NHS. What SCB wants and expects is not the case as it stands - employer support is either contractual or voluntary, but certainly not compulsory.

The call centre staff are not high earners and they get a constant stream of negatives day in day outo. Believe it or not the job I do can leave you feeling isolated and the result based culture can lead to issues, as I found out myself. Now I do not give a toss, how much I earn, so I'm quite happy.

 

[Fez]

The call centre staff are not high earners and they get a constant stream of negatives day in day outo. Believe it or not the job I do can leave you feeling isolated and the result based culture can lead to issues, as I found out myself. Now I do not give a toss, how much I earn, so I may quite happy.

I don't want or intend to fully analyse your industry; the whole point is that, as employment law stands, employers are not responsible for the mental well beig of their employees. Drink, drugs and dirty women could all play a part; what should the employer do? If the job and the employer can support individual insurance then great, but, strangely, I have met lots who, where a personal contribution required, they didn't value the support. Life really is a box of chocolates.

Oh, and I think Marshall will start again in a cup game.

 

[The Omega Man]

I would

I don't want or intend to fully analyse for industry; the whole point is that, as employment law stands, employers are not responsible for the mental well beig of their employees. Drink, drugs and dirty women could all play a part; what should the employer do? If the job and the employer can support individual insurance then great, but, strangely, I have met lots who, were a personal contribution required, they didn't value the support. Life really is a box of chocolates.

Oh, and I think Marshall will start again in a cup game.

I would prefer Jakupovic just because prefer his style and I'm going. I still think Marshall is a better keeper but I still prefer to watch Jak.

I know a can of worms is slowly being opened!

 

[Fez]

I would


I would prefer Jakupovic just because prefer his style and I'm going. I still think Marshall is a better keeper but I still prefer to watch Jak.

I know a can of worms is slowly being opened!

Not really. I just think we will be back to No2 for cups and Jak is No1.

 

[The Omega Man]

Not really. I just think we will be back to No2 for cups and Jak is No1.

I actually would love to see Jakupovic play as a striker, I know it's daft, but....

 

[Fez]

I actually would love to see Jakupovic play as a striker, I know it's daft, but....

You're right, it's daft

 

[Obadiah]

We know EA is useless, but I don't think Snodders is blameless.

We have just sold our top scorer and the player with the most assists and most City fans are happy. The vast majority think he walked out the door rather than being pushed. I'd say Ehab is far from useless and if you look hard enough its all in his Yorkshire Post interviews. We now have the money to buy another 3 or 4 players before the deadline expires. Most probably long younger with a long term value. I'd say Ehab Allam is far from useless.

 

[Des Head]

I don't want or intend to fully analyse your industry; the whole point is that, as employment law stands, employers are not responsible for the mental well beig of their employees. Drink, drugs and dirty women could all play a part; what should the employer do? If the job and the employer can support individual insurance then great, but, strangely, I have met lots who, where a personal contribution required, they didn't value the support. Life really is a box of chocolates.

Oh, and I think Marshall will start again in a cup game.

East Riding Council provides all of it's employees with help when it comes to mental illness. When one of my staff clearly needed professional help I arranged it and she was only on minimum wage. If that's not standard across the board now, it will be. It's worth it.

 

[Fez]

We have just sold our top scorer and the player with the most assists and most City fans are happy. The vast majority think he walked out the door rather than being pushed. I'd say Ehab is far from useless and if you look hard enough its all in his Yorkshire Post interviews. We now have the money to buy another 3 or 4 players before the deadline expires. Most probably long younger with a long term value. I'd say Ehab Allam is far from useless.

How much of the conversations have you read? Anyway, he is uselesz in so much that he has created a caustic club.

Getting the money and changing a lopsided team is someting I covered nearly a week ago. Do keep up.

 

[Fez]

East Riding Council provides all of it's employees with help when it comes to mental illness. When one of my staff clearly needed professional help I arranged it and she was only on minimum wage. If that's not standard across the board now, it will be. It's worth it.

Do they send them to Hull for treatment? (Jossing, honest )

I agree on its worth, but the point was it is not standard and it isn't mandatory for it to be so.

 

[Obadiah]

How much of the conversations have you read? Anyway, he is uselesz in so much that he has created a caustic club.

Getting the money and changing a lopsided team is someting I covered nearly a week ago. Do keep up.

Yes, sir. Maybe I should write out 20 times I must read everything on this board.

 

[Fez]

Yes, sir. Maybe I should write out 20 times I must read everything on this board.

No, son, don't do that, just spend the time touching the little blue arrows in the quotes to go back and glean some context before judging.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

So employers now have a responsibility for ensuring their employees get the correct help in relation to mental health problems - really?

Okay, you, or TOM, who 'liked' your post, explain why they are and how they are supposed to achieve that.

What can an employer do to improve the service an employee gets from the NHS?

How can the landlord of a pub ensure their emplyees get the correct mental health care. I'm fascinated to know how this is done in the world of the living wage.

They have a Duty of Care to their employees. If they know an employee is suffering from mental health issues they have a responsibility to make sure the correct help is on hand.

This Duty of Care extends not only to the individual but also to the health & safety of other employees.

Your points highlight the fact that there are unscrupulous employers out there, who need taking to task for shirking their responsibilities.

Have a read of this.

http://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/article...ployers-responsibilities-around-mental-health

http://m.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1900

 

[Obadiah]

No, son, don't do that, just spend the time touching the little blue arrows in the quotes to go back and glean some context before judging.

Clicked on the blue arrows. can't see your quote saying you think Snodgrass was engineered out the door. Perhaps you'd like to let me know where it is. To make it easier, I know you think Snodgrass wouldn't fit into the team Marco Silva's building and in that we have agreement. I also think, but aren't certain, that you believe we need the money from the sale of Snodgrass to buy/loan his targets.

 

[Happy Tiger]

What the **** are you on about, it was a report of what was said at a press conference, were David Meyler said Hull City, that was used, were he said Hull, that was how it was reported. A supporter gave up free time to attend, another gave up time to publish and only you trawl through the report looking for something to tear into. Nothing was doctored to suit any agenda, nothing was changed to show any baise and you can see that by the use of Hull City, within the report.

You cannot dictate to supporters what they call the club they support, who do you think you are


Come on U Ull
From Boothferry to Wemblet, we"ll keep the Hull flag flying high
We are Ull we are Ull.

All should not be sung because the dictator PLT say's you are a southern TV supporting fan, if you don't add city in the chant.

**** you, PLT, I would never try to dictate to any supporter what they should call their club, isn't that exactly what you are protesting about?

Ignore him mate, it's easy to sneer at other people trying to make a difference or who want to do things for their fellow fans, without favour or prejudice. Something he's genuinely incapable of. Happily a lot more are seeing him now for what he is.

Ta for the write up, it's appreciated.