1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

The Snodgrass thread...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Putney Tiger, Jan 27, 2017.

  1. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2011
    Messages:
    8,278
    Likes Received:
    5,664
    I liked it because, it is a subject that is quite current within parts of my industry. We can wear personal safety gear, risk assessments to prevent accidents and injuries, but the biggest cause of lost working days are stress related, in my industry. Employers are starting to look at ways to cut this down.
     
    #41
  2. StCloudTiger

    StCloudTiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    683
    Likes Received:
    494
    Team news?
     
    #42
  3. juleskaren

    juleskaren Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2011
    Messages:
    1,440
    Likes Received:
    700
    I am sure Marco said that he would not pick a player that had not been training. To me that means Snodgrass has refused to even train with the team.
     
    #43
  4. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    5,161
    I think managers often don't want to lose a player, but they know they have to accept it. If asked, 'Do you want him to leave?' they will honestly say 'No'. But they know it also part and parcel of the game.

    Hasn't OLM said Snodgrass asked to leave?

    It just comes across that you are deliberately overstating what you do know and filling the gaps that you don't know with stuff designed to make the owners look like ****s. They are ****s, but making **** up, or embellishing it, masks the truth of it all.
     
    #44
  5. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    5,161
    People who work in your industry are usually specialist and reasonably high earners; I think you would agree your ranks are not populated by minimum or living wage employees. In their world it is easier to leave them to the care of the NHS. What SCB wants and expects is not the case as it stands - employer support is either contractual or voluntary, but certainly not compulsory.
     
    #45
  6. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2011
    Messages:
    8,278
    Likes Received:
    5,664
    The call centre staff are not high earners and they get a constant stream of negatives day in day outo. Believe it or not the job I do can leave you feeling isolated and the result based culture can lead to issues, as I found out myself. Now I do not give a toss, how much I earn, so I'm quite happy.
     
    #46
  7. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    5,161
    I don't want or intend to fully analyse your industry; the whole point is that, as employment law stands, employers are not responsible for the mental well beig of their employees. Drink, drugs and dirty women could all play a part; what should the employer do? If the job and the employer can support individual insurance then great, but, strangely, I have met lots who, where a personal contribution required, they didn't value the support. Life really is a box of chocolates.

    Oh, and I think Marshall will start again in a cup game.
     
    #47
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2017
  8. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2011
    Messages:
    8,278
    Likes Received:
    5,664
    I would
    I would prefer Jakupovic just because prefer his style and I'm going. I still think Marshall is a better keeper but I still prefer to watch Jak.

    I know a can of worms is slowly being opened!
     
    #48
  9. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    5,161
    Not really. I just think we will be back to No2 for cups and Jak is No1.
     
    #49
  10. The Omega Man

    The Omega Man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2011
    Messages:
    8,278
    Likes Received:
    5,664
    I actually would love to see Jakupovic play as a striker, I know it's daft, but....
     
    #50

  11. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    5,161
    <laugh> You're right, it's daft <laugh>
     
    #51
  12. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,249
    Likes Received:
    2,684
    We have just sold our top scorer and the player with the most assists and most City fans are happy. The vast majority think he walked out the door rather than being pushed. I'd say Ehab is far from useless and if you look hard enough its all in his Yorkshire Post interviews. We now have the money to buy another 3 or 4 players before the deadline expires. Most probably long younger with a long term value. I'd say Ehab Allam is far from useless.
     
    #52
    PattyNchips2 likes this.
  13. Des Head

    Des Head Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2011
    Messages:
    2,532
    Likes Received:
    3,364
    East Riding Council provides all of it's employees with help when it comes to mental illness. When one of my staff clearly needed professional help I arranged it and she was only on minimum wage. If that's not standard across the board now, it will be. It's worth it.
     
    #53
    dennisboothstash likes this.
  14. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    5,161
    How much of the conversations have you read? Anyway, he is uselesz in so much that he has created a caustic club.

    Getting the money and changing a lopsided team is someting I covered nearly a week ago. Do keep up.
     
    #54
  15. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    5,161
    Do they send them to Hull for treatment? (Jossing, honest )

    I agree on its worth, but the point was it is not standard and it isn't mandatory for it to be so.
     
    #55
  16. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,249
    Likes Received:
    2,684
    Yes, sir. Maybe I should write out 20 times I must read everything on this board.
     
    #56
    dennisboothstash likes this.
  17. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    13,622
    Likes Received:
    5,161
    No, son, don't do that, just spend the time touching the little blue arrows in the quotes to go back and glean some context before judging.
     
    #57
  18. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2013
    Messages:
    23,678
    Likes Received:
    27,241
    They have a Duty of Care to their employees. If they know an employee is suffering from mental health issues they have a responsibility to make sure the correct help is on hand.

    This Duty of Care extends not only to the individual but also to the health & safety of other employees.

    Your points highlight the fact that there are unscrupulous employers out there, who need taking to task for shirking their responsibilities.

    Have a read of this.

    http://www.hrmagazine.co.uk/article...ployers-responsibilities-around-mental-health

    http://m.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1900
     
    #58
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2017
    AlRawdah likes this.
  19. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2013
    Messages:
    5,249
    Likes Received:
    2,684
    Clicked on the blue arrows. can't see your quote saying you think Snodgrass was engineered out the door. Perhaps you'd like to let me know where it is. To make it easier, I know you think Snodgrass wouldn't fit into the team Marco Silva's building and in that we have agreement. I also think, but aren't certain, that you believe we need the money from the sale of Snodgrass to buy/loan his targets.
     
    #59
  20. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    15,983
    Likes Received:
    7,363
    Ignore him mate, it's easy to sneer at other people trying to make a difference or who want to do things for their fellow fans, without favour or prejudice. Something he's genuinely incapable of. Happily a lot more are seeing him now for what he is.

    Ta for the write up, it's appreciated.
     
    #60

Share This Page