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The Snodgrass thread...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Putney Tiger, Jan 27, 2017.

  1. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Spot on
    Just because they're paid loads doesn't mean they should have less rights as an employee
     
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  2. Putney Tiger

    Putney Tiger Well-Known Member

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    I doubt that's the case. They have had an offer accepted. They're hardly going to go back on it now and risk losing out to Burnley.
    Hope it's done as soon as possible now!
     
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  3. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    What about him fulfilling his responsibilities as an employee and seeing his contract out ?
     
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  4. PLT

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    That responsibility doesn't exist. You don't half post some crap on here.
     
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  5. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    So, Your Highness, you are saying that a contract is only for the players benefit ?
    What a nob.
     
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  6. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    It appears the club sold him, against the Manager's wishes &, from how I perceive it, also against the player's wishes.
     
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  7. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    We still talking about Snodgrass ? He had 18 mth left on his contract which was extended from the 6 mths remaining quite recently.
    He wanted longer, at 30 with a dodgy knee I can see his point.
    The manager didn't want him to leave, obviously, leading goal scorer etc, but the player wanted to go and is reported of saying that to the manager at their first meeting.
    So it's not against the players wishes at all, he wanted to go to what ever club would give him a longer contract and the most money.
    What's not to perceive ?
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    He's 29 and hasn't had a knee problem since 2015.
     
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  9. HFFP

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    Well since he was fully recovered in November 2015 thats a year and 3 months whithout problems in the knee.
     
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  10. Manila Tiger

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    Dean Marney's just done his cruciate........2 years after doing the same on the same knee !!
     
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  11. Fez

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    Any retractions from the detractors? <whistle>
     
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  12. Fez

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    Any straw, hey, Ben? <laugh>
     
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  13. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    29's the new 30.
     
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  14. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    So employers now have a responsibility for ensuring their employees get the correct help in relation to mental health problems - really?
     
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  15. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    Really?

    I've done about 6weeks of full time hours in the last year, about 9 months full time hours in the last 3 years. I've had 3 years on full pay.

    The company has made it clear we're not being retained in the long term.

    If I was 29, with a young family, I'd jump ship too. Not through lack of loyalty but because I have no confidence in those steering the ship.

    I believe Snodgrass to be in the same boat.

    All you lot would also do the same faced with similar choices.

    If the club respected & valued him they would have discussed a new deal & not have sent him an email.

    The damage was done before Silva arrived.
     
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  16. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    Yes, absolutely, 100%.
     
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  17. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

    DJBlackandamberarmy(No4) Well-Known Member

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    I love it when people talk about these footballers needing to support their families , like the extra 10k a week will stop them needing to get a part time job at Tescos to makes ends meet <laugh>
     
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  18. TigerMarv

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    Is he refusing to play and train or has he just said that he wants to leave so MS decided not to pick him?
     
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  19. Fez

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    I don't really know what the first part has to do with anything; it would appear you have had 3yrs of ill health, which is certainly unfortunate. Your company have supported you, maybe as a part of your contract, mine would me as would those for two of my children, but the other would get a rapid decrease to statuary terms and hard times; not everyone is as fortunate in some things.

    But yes, Snodgrass was entitled to support from the club and he got it.

    Livermore got support, even though his circumstances were a little more controversial.

    To keep a balanced view, it also needs to be pointed out that the club had a huge financial imperative to support both players.

    My point is, and I have seen others agree, that just maybe Snodgrass might have given us to the end of the season; would it have made a huge difference to his fee? He choose not to, so-be-it, thanks and move on.

    I have seen the post, from OLM, about his contract being emailed; maybe it was, but there are two sides to every story, sometimes three when an agent is involved.

    He blatantly touted himself to Celtic and was rebuffed - that would have been him finished for me.

    Damage was done before Silva arrived, by both EA and RS. We know EA is useless, but I don't think Snodders is blameless. I am disappointed to lose his skill in set pieces, but I am glad he is moving on and Silva can get on with rebuilding the team.

    As for Livermore, I think the move suited him just fine, or should we have stopped him.

    Sometimes you've just got to accept that **** happens and move on. The owners are ****e, but this happens all of the time in football, ****e owners or not.
     
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  20. Fez

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    Okay, you, or TOM, who 'liked' your post, explain why they are and how they are supposed to achieve that.

    What can an employer do to improve the service an employee gets from the NHS?

    How can the landlord of a pub ensure their emplyees get the correct mental health care. I'm fascinated to know how this is done in the world of the living wage.
     
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