The Snodgrass thread...

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They had a duty of care responsibility, as employees, to make sure Jake got the correct help in relation to his mental health problems.

The club did this & I commended them for it at the time when many others reacted in a cheap & pathetic manner.
Spot on
Just because they're paid loads doesn't mean they should have less rights as an employee
 
Read this morning that WHAM deal for Snodgrass might be delayed until they sort out what they are getting for Payet. If this holds up us getting in replacements will be irritating. But then West Ham have a habit of being irritating.

I doubt that's the case. They have had an offer accepted. They're hardly going to go back on it now and risk losing out to Burnley.
Hope it's done as soon as possible now!
 
It appears the club sold him, against the Manager's wishes &, from how I perceive it, also against the player's wishes.

We still talking about Snodgrass ? He had 18 mth left on his contract which was extended from the 6 mths remaining quite recently.
He wanted longer, at 30 with a dodgy knee I can see his point.
The manager didn't want him to leave, obviously, leading goal scorer etc, but the player wanted to go and is reported of saying that to the manager at their first meeting.
So it's not against the players wishes at all, he wanted to go to what ever club would give him a longer contract and the most money.
What's not to perceive ?
 
We still talking about Snodgrass ? He had 18 mth left on his contract which was extended from the 6 mths remaining quite recently.
He wanted longer, at 30 with a dodgy knee I can see his point.
The manager didn't want him to leave, obviously, leading goal scorer etc, but the player wanted to go and is reported of saying that to the manager at their first meeting.
So it's not against the players wishes at all, he wanted to go to what ever club would give him a longer contract and the most money.
What's not to perceive ?

He's 29 and hasn't had a knee problem since 2015.
 
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They had a duty of care responsibility, as employers, to make sure Jake got the correct help in relation to his mental health problems.

The club did this & I commended them for it at the time when many others reacted in a cheap & pathetic manner.

So employers now have a responsibility for ensuring their employees get the correct help in relation to mental health problems - really?
 
Any straw, hey, Ben? <laugh>

Really?

I've done about 6weeks of full time hours in the last year, about 9 months full time hours in the last 3 years. I've had 3 years on full pay.

The company has made it clear we're not being retained in the long term.

If I was 29, with a young family, I'd jump ship too. Not through lack of loyalty but because I have no confidence in those steering the ship.

I believe Snodgrass to be in the same boat.

All you lot would also do the same faced with similar choices.

If the club respected & valued him they would have discussed a new deal & not have sent him an email.

The damage was done before Silva arrived.
 
I'm not on the Snodgrass side here, just refusing to play/train shows bad attitude, and that's not something there used to be as much of. It's not so much whether he likes Ehab (who does?), it's about respect for everyone else.

Is he refusing to play and train or has he just said that he wants to leave so MS decided not to pick him?
 
Really?

I've done about 6weeks of full time hours in the last year, about 9 months full time hours in the last 3 years. I've had 3 years on full pay.

The company has made it clear we're not being retained in the long term.

If I was 29, with a young family, I'd jump ship too. Not through lack of loyalty but because I have no confidence in those steering the ship.

I believe Snodgrass to be in the same boat.

All you lot would also do the same faced with similar choices.

If the club respected & valued him they would have discussed a new deal & not have sent him an email.

The damage was done before Silva arrived.

I don't really know what the first part has to do with anything; it would appear you have had 3yrs of ill health, which is certainly unfortunate. Your company have supported you, maybe as a part of your contract, mine would me as would those for two of my children, but the other would get a rapid decrease to statuary terms and hard times; not everyone is as fortunate in some things.

But yes, Snodgrass was entitled to support from the club and he got it.

Livermore got support, even though his circumstances were a little more controversial.

To keep a balanced view, it also needs to be pointed out that the club had a huge financial imperative to support both players.

My point is, and I have seen others agree, that just maybe Snodgrass might have given us to the end of the season; would it have made a huge difference to his fee? He choose not to, so-be-it, thanks and move on.

I have seen the post, from OLM, about his contract being emailed; maybe it was, but there are two sides to every story, sometimes three when an agent is involved.

He blatantly touted himself to Celtic and was rebuffed - that would have been him finished for me.

Damage was done before Silva arrived, by both EA and RS. We know EA is useless, but I don't think Snodders is blameless. I am disappointed to lose his skill in set pieces, but I am glad he is moving on and Silva can get on with rebuilding the team.

As for Livermore, I think the move suited him just fine, or should we have stopped him.

Sometimes you've just got to accept that **** happens and move on. The owners are ****e, but this happens all of the time in football, ****e owners or not.
 
Yes, absolutely, 100%.

Okay, you, or TOM, who 'liked' your post, explain why they are and how they are supposed to achieve that.

What can an employer do to improve the service an employee gets from the NHS?

How can the landlord of a pub ensure their emplyees get the correct mental health care. I'm fascinated to know how this is done in the world of the living wage.