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  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    Have you watched many Indian films ?
    I saw a bit of one that showed an amazing battle scene....flaming arrows, catapults, fiery deaths....wish I knew the name of it
     
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    No mate, I haven't.....I know this won't make sense, but I'm put off of Indian films because most of them seem to have a lot of singing and dancing in <laugh><laugh> massive generalisation I know!
     
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    Try The Chess Players, think it’s a seventies film by Sanayit Ray, about two noblemen playing chess while the East India company plots to take over their state, just before the Indian Mutiny/First War of Independence (depending on perspective). His film Distant Thunder shows the impact of the Bengal Famine of 1943 on life in a village.

    Don’t think either have songs, but both have subtitles!
     
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    OK, so you don’t like Indian movies, Steelers, but there’s no need to make a song and dance about it.
     
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    Found it......well worth 30 mins of your time
     
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    Just watched Captain Fantastic, with the excellent Viggo Mortensen and the wonderful George Mackay (almost as ubiquitous as Stephen Graham). Hard to categorise really, but it was funny, moving and uplifting for this aging hippy. Some interesting, if romanticised, concepts for the anarchists on here (maybe).
     
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    Just watched it - it's a bit Bollywood for me really in that I found some of it a bit too dramatised to make it seem serious. If you enjoyed that, I seriously recommend the Red Cliff movies I mentioned earlier. Beautifully shot, the films were directed by John Woo so expect a few of his slowed down shots, but the size of the battle scenes are something to behold with some amazing tactics for the era.

    Here's the trailer, although it really doesn't do it justice....

     
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    Redemption and redemption two if you like fight scenes with very few subtitles

    The first ones set entirely in a block of flats and it's amazing how many people you can kill with a trunchon and a knife
    Floor five I think it was
     
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    Similar to the scenes trying to get into Sainsbury’s yesterday morning.
     
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    If it's the film I'm thinking if, it's called The Raid over here

     
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    Probably just as stylistically mannered than John Woo, but possibly a inspiration, Kurosawa’s Ran (‘Chaos’ - a version of King Lear) has some big battle scenes, beautifully choreographed and with details like every speck of dust and the steam from horses nostrils that you don’t get with CGI (and with brilliant use of silence and music - you have to see it) as does his Kagemusha. But his best film (of the ones I have seen) is Rashomon from 1950 a single crime story told from several different perspectives, which has spawned regular copies and which many great directors have in their top ten films.

    I’m quite enjoying Mad Men, there’s a bit more to it than the first impression. Not 92 ****ing episodes worth though.
     
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    Yes, seen a few Kurosawa films, including Ran and Seven Samurai (another that's been copied multiple times) - years ahead of his time with beautiful cinematography and minimalist effects.

    I've not seen Mad Men, and at 92 episodes I'm unlikely to pick it up unless I have some severe amount of down time, which doesn't look likely any time soon!
     
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    That's the ones steelsy
    The raid redemption
    Pity Gareth wouldn't make the third one

    The Raid 3’ Plot Details Revealed by Director Gareth Evans
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    After The Raid and The Raid 2 absolutely annihilated action fans in the freaking face, we all waited with bated breath for a third. And thus far… none has come out. But while appearing on a recent podcast for Empire, director Gareth Evans detailed what would happen in a potential The Raid 3. Better find something to hold onto, I don’t want your freaking face to get annihilated again.

    Warning: Some spoilers for the first two Raid films follow.


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    The first two films star Iko Uwais as Rama, our hard-fighting hero, desperate to clobber his way through horrific criminal syndicates for personal reasons. It would stand to reason that he’d star in the third, right? Wrong. As it turns out, Evans’ scripted final line for Uwais in The Raid 2 (A simple “I’m done”) was prophetic, because Evans just couldn’t believe that character coming back for more.

    I couldn’t fathom of another ****ing reason why he would put his life at risk and separate himself from his ****ing wife and kid again. I was like, it can’t be about Rama. It just can’t, because if he does something to pull himself away from his poor ****ing wife and kid again, I’d be like, “Hmm, you sort of deserve to die now really. Take some responsibility and be a father for a change!”

    So, what would happen in The Raid 3 instead? Evans is interested in expanding the Asian criminal underground even further, building on a tantalizing glimpse of something seen briefly in The Raid 2. We’ll let the filmmaker pitch the entire friggin’ movie himself:

    The story was going to go back in time to the moment in The Raid 2 when the Goto Gang, the Japanese gang, are having a meeting, and Goto tells his right-hand man to take care of it, wipe out every corrupt cop and politician that they have on the books and start fresh. The Raid 3 would begin with Rama coming out of that building after having killed everybody and saying ‘No, I’m done’. He walks away to [police officer] Bunawar, who’ll be waiting for him in his car, he gets in and drives away. And you stay with the Japanese gang, who are like, ‘What the **** do we do now? Everyone’s dead, we’ve got no-one to kill.’ They get into their car, and as they’re driving along all of a sudden this other car rocks up alongside them and just blitzes them, and the cars crash. Goto, his son, and his right-hand man are the only remaining survivors from that attack, and it cuts to credits and says ‘The Raid 3’.

    Then it would jump back in time. The idea was that the right-hand man, after being told to kill off all the politicians and cops and wipe the clean slate, would call back to Tokyo to the big huge boss, and be like, ‘Goto’s going ****ing nuts. This is ****ing crazy, what do I do?’ The call from HQ is, ‘Keep him still, keep him close, we’ll send people to take care of it, and if you do that for us, you can take over his turf.’ The attack goes wrong – it’s a kill squad from Japan who have turned up and taken out the Gotos. Goto has no idea that this right-hand man has betrayed him and set him up for the ambush.

    They go off into hiding, all the way to the jungles of West Java. Goto arranges to meet up with this old mafia boss (played by) Christine Hakim, who has trained killers in her jungle retreat. She’s providing protection for Goto because they go way back, she’s the one who introduced him to Jakarta in the first place. The idea is this Japanese kill squad that’s used to the streets of Tokyo suddenly have to deal with the terrain of a jungle-hunt, a bit like Predator in a way. Christine’s militia, these guerrilla kids, would be taking care of this Japanese intrusion on their land. I didn’t work out the whole thing, but at some point Goto’s son would have got killed, he would have realised that it was the right-hand man who betrayed him all along, and they’d have some real gnarly tribal way of dealing with him. And Goto and this guerrilla gang of Indonesian killers would then go back to Tokyo in order to ****ing take care of the people that ordered to kill him.


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    Okay! Wow! That’s a lot of story Mr. Evans just plowed through, all for a podcast audience! And yet, he insists the film would only be lean-and-mean 95 minutes at most, a far cry from the epic length of The Raid 2 (“I definitely think it would have pissed off an awful lot of people, so maybe now they know what I had planned, people will be like, ‘You know what, don’t worry about The Raid 3, we’re good!'” laughed Evans). So will we ever get to see this more contained Raid 3, and get pissed off ourselves? Unlikely, says Evans.

    Before I knew it, I was five years down the line, I’d made Apostle, we were starting to get production going on Gangs Of London. I couldn’t see myself going back out to make The Raid 3. My interests had moved on to other projects. You work with other people, you meet other people and want to work with them again, you want to try different things, you find a story that suddenly captures your attention and that’s the thing you want to do next. Things get offered to you that are hard to pass up on.

    For me, I rather like this pitch on The Raid 3, and especially enjoy its tighter designs (hot take: the first two Raid pictures suffer from length and samey-ness for me). Maybe some day we’ll get to see it on the big screen — but, frankly, with Evans’ vivid language, I feel like we already have.

    For more on what Evans has been up to, check out the badass trailer for his new TV series Gangs of London.
     
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    The strength of Mad Men is its acceptability to all members of the family.....
     
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    I have a feeling we discussed these films a while back in this thread!
     
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    The IP man movies are not bad and there's one about an elephant trainer that has a couple of good fight scenes but I can't remember what that's called
    YouTube might help me out there
     
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    The protector
     
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    Tony Jaa does the elephant movies - got a couple on my hard drive. Ong Bak is the one where the gangsters steal some holy relic from village, and The Protector is where his elephant gets stolen and taken to Australia - both very violent.

    Donny Yen is great in Ip Man.

    If you like those, then try Once Upon A Time in China films (there's six of them!)
     
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    Just this minute finished watching Blade two on tv
    Donny yen did the choreography
    I even thought Mike Tyson was good value in one of the IP man movies
     
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    Must be rubbish then.
    If my Mrs doesn’t have a look of disgust at anything I watch, I feel let down.
     
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