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Who will you vote for in the May 2015 UK General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 36 32.4%
  • Green

    Votes: 6 5.4%
  • Labour

    Votes: 17 15.3%
  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 18 16.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 4 3.6%
  • I will not vote

    Votes: 11 9.9%
  • I cannot vote - too young/in prison/in House of Lords/mad

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • I am not a citizen of the UK

    Votes: 13 11.7%

  • Total voters
    111
  • Poll closed .
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Does that 65% include those too apathetic to vote or is it strictly those who voted otherwise.
The Tories got 35% of the votes that were cast. 66% of the electorate voted. So less than a quarter of the total population actually eligible vote went for them. Just the way the system works.
 
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GET OVER IT......

If your local area gets fracked into oblivion and the value of your house plummets to zero or your employer sacks you 'cos he can get someone else to do your job for half the salary and you have no comeback as the Human Rights Legislation has been repealed would you like anybody to come on here and tell you to get over it?

People are fearful Chaz and rightly so.......................a little empathy perhaps or are you really that devoid of feelings for your fellow man?[/QUOTE]
Selective quoting does nobody any good - least of all you.Pils.

If you had quoted ALL of my post, it would be clear my statement was about the moans re the voting system. Which you well know. Please debate properly in future and don't deliberately misquote people, because when you do that nobody takes you at all seriously.
 
The Tories got 35% of the votes that were cast. 66% of the electorate voted. So less than a quarter of the total population actually eligible vote went for them. Just the way the system works.
Exactly. Less that that amount went to any other party, so there's no way they can be painted as having any greater right to govern.
 
If your local area gets fracked into oblivion and the value of your house plummets to zero or your employer sacks you 'cos he can get someone else to do your job for half the salary and you have no comeback as the Human Rights Legislation has been repealed would you like anybody to come on here and tell you to get over it?

People are fearful Chaz and rightly so.......................a little empathy perhaps or are you really that devoid of feelings for your fellow man?
Selective quoting does nobody any good - least of all you.Pils.

If you had quoted ALL of my post, it would be clear my statement was about the moans re the voting system. Which you well know. Please debate properly in future and don't deliberately misquote people, because when you do that nobody takes you at all seriously.[/QUOTE]

Pots and Kettles, Chaz.
 
Selective quoting does nobody any good - least of all you.Pils.

If you had quoted ALL of my post, it would be clear my statement was about the moans re the voting system. Which you well know. Please debate properly in future and don't deliberately misquote people, because when you do that nobody takes you at all seriously.

Pots and Kettles, Chaz.[/QUOTE]

Sorry? I never deliberately pick a few words form someone's post and then weave a completely fictitious whine out of it. Is there anywhere in my post above where pils could in any way have interpreted it as a comment about fracking? Or Human rights? No.
 
Pots and Kettles, Chaz.

Sorry? I never deliberately pick a few words form someone's post and then weave a completely fictitious whine out of it. Is there anywhere in my post above where pils could in any way have interpreted it as a comment about fracking? Or Human rights? No.[/QUOTE]

Stan had you nailed, mate.

The Floyd Mayweather Dodging the Punches and Hitting Back Award - Chaz, even though he sometimes chose to ignore all but one or two words in some posts.

Your continued description of contrary posts as 'whining' does you no credit either.
 
It's going to be interesting to see how many of the Tories' unfunded election promises they are able to include in their Queen's Speech. I think they are in a similar situation to the Liberals after the last election, whereby they have promised a whole lot of stuff they thought they would never have to deliver on, because they didn't expect to gain a majority.
 
Sorry? I never deliberately pick a few words form someone's post and then weave a completely fictitious whine out of it. Is there anywhere in my post above where pils could in any way have interpreted it as a comment about fracking? Or Human rights? No.

Stan had you nailed, mate.

The Floyd Mayweather Dodging the Punches and Hitting Back Award - Chaz, even though he sometimes chose to ignore all but one or two words in some posts.

Your continued description of contrary posts as 'whining' does you no credit either.[/QUOTE]
Don't drag me into this! Ain't refereeing this thread!
 
It's going to be interesting to see how many of the Tories' unfunded election promises they are able to include in their Queen's Speech. I think they are in a similar situation to the Liberals after the last election, whereby they have promised a whole lot of stuff they thought they would never have to deliver on, because they didn't expect to gain a majority.
Would have been just the same for Labour mate. Their big promise was reducing the deficit, I have no doubt that they will have a good go at that. Manifestos/ pre election promises are 'directional' at best.
 
I think some of the people on here - and those out defacing war memorials - could follow Milibands position. He doesn't blame the voting system or berate the opposition, he man's up to the fact that Labour failed and blamed nobody but himself. That's life in a democracy...
 
Sorry? I never deliberately pick a few words form someone's post and then weave a completely fictitious whine out of it. Is there anywhere in my post above where pils could in any way have interpreted it as a comment about fracking? Or Human rights? No.

Stan had you nailed, mate.

The Floyd Mayweather Dodging the Punches and Hitting Back Award - Chaz, even though he sometimes chose to ignore all but one or two words in some posts.

Your continued description of contrary posts as 'whining' does you no credit either.[/QUOTE]
Ignoring parts of a post is different from deliberately misinterpreting a post. You get it now?
 
Please, educate me. What part of my post was a lie? I'm more than happy to apologies if you can PROVE I'm wrong.

It wasn't your lie Shefford, it was the Tory party lie that the 2008 recession was the result of overspending by the Labour government rather than the global banking crash. You merely perpetuated it.
 
Hmmm...

People have a right to demonstrate peacefully, but not be violent or cause damage. (Of course, that may soon be changing).

I would worry if there was no news coverage, but it's on the BBC website.

Regarding "the people have spoken"... it's no surprise people feel disconnected from the political process when only 35% of the vote gets you a majority in parliament that permits you to (potentially) ride roughshod over the 65% who didn't support your policies. The government needs to be gracious in victory and consider the views of the 65% as well as their own.

In Scotland, you'd think that everyone voted SNP given they won 56 out of 59 seats, yet they actually didn't get much more than 50% of the vote.

(Please don't quibble about my figures, I'm doing this from memory. It just illustrates the principle. Ta. )

Regardless of your political views, surely we can all see that the current system, which evolved in the early days of Parliament, is no longer fit for purpose? It delivers an unrepresentative result and encourages tactical voting.

Good analysis. I liked what Cameron said about uniting the nation and leading everyone forward together. I hope he sticks to it!
 
It wasn't your lie Shefford, it was the Tory party lie that the 2008 recession was the result of overspending by the Labour government rather than the global banking crash. You merely perpetuated it.
The financial crisis was real. Gordon Brown and then Alastair Darling completely mismanaged Britain's response to it, leaving us in a terrible state compared with where we might have been. They may not have started the crisis, but their inability to deal with it perpetuated the problems.
 
It wasn't your lie Shefford, it was the Tory party lie that the 2008 recession was the result of overspending by the Labour government rather than the global banking crash. You merely perpetuated it.

It was a combination of both, Labour continued to spend like it was confetti when they knew how serious the position was, it was recklessly unnecessary. Add to that the extortionately expensive PFI's to build schools and hospitals which we'll all be paying for another 25-30 years and it's easy to see why Labour's financial competence is their Achilles heel...
 
The financial crisis was real. Gordon Brown and then Alastair Darling completely mismanaged Britain's response to it, leaving us in a terrible state compared with where we might have been. They may not have started the crisis, but their inability to deal with it perpetuated the problems.

Britain's response to the banking crisis was widely admired and copied (Gordon Brown was named World Statesman Of The Year by some organisation or other).

It's good to know that you accept that the recession was not caused by the Labour government, perhaps you could explain to Shefford and the rest.
 
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