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While I don't agree with Swords saying there's a proliferation of these events - your point about appreciated the diminishing numbers still with us is hugely important. My backing of Swords (although it might be a slightly different take) is that, if you need to forcibly popularise it by having Dizzy Rascal doing All Saints covers (or whatever) then you're promoting something that shouldn't need celebrity razzmatazz. If people need enticements to respect and remember then we're better off hitting the dark ages again.

Your point about the need to remember the potential problems of the consequences of allowing extreme politics and enmity of those with differing political views is as relevant today as ever.

 

It seems to me there was a large amount of 'BBC' involved in this, hence the 'tacky' input, they just have an uncanny knack of sullying even the most dignified of occasions...

 

Socialists demonstrating against Tory cuts. Cuts that were necessary due to the mismanagement of the economy by a Labour government. Perhaps these thickos should be directing their ire at Brown, Darling, Campbell etc?

 

The police said most demonstrators behaved well. It was a few who did the damage. Demonstrating against a continued policy of austerity - as is their democratic right. The same right fought for by the left and right of the UK 70 years ago.

 

Hmmm...

People have a right to demonstrate peacefully, but not be violent or cause damage. (Of course, that may soon be changing).

I would worry if there was no news coverage, but it's on the BBC website.

Regarding "the people have spoken"... it's no surprise people feel disconnected from the political process when only 35% of the vote gets you a majority in parliament that permits you to (potentially) ride roughshod over the 65% who didn't support your policies. The government needs to be gracious in victory and consider the views of the 65% as well as their own.

In Scotland, you'd think that everyone voted SNP given they won 56 out of 59 seats, yet they actually didn't get much more than 50% of the vote.

(Please don't quibble about my figures, I'm doing this from memory. It just illustrates the principle. Ta. )

Regardless of your political views, surely we can all see that the current system, which evolved in the early days of Parliament, is no longer fit for purpose? It delivers an unrepresentative result and encourages tactical voting.

 

This is spot on.

 

In the end it does'nt matter who you vote for " THE GOVERNMENT ALWAYS GETS IN "
Most politicians only do it for the perks and the fact they are to fcuking idle to get a real fcuking jobs !!!!

 

Well the part of that 65% who didn't vote should get up and do so then.

 

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.

 

Maybe I've got it wrong, but wasn't it 65% of those who voted that voted for other parties?

 

Spot on Stroller.

And so it begins................... to all you "middle class" Tories out there - be careful what you wish for.

Perversely, by having a left leaning Government in power you are protected from the workers as their needs are relatively well catered for.

By voting in a right leaning party that will screw them at every opportunity in the name of austerity ( created by a global crash instigated by the wealthy / greedy ) you have ironically removed that buffer and their anger will be coming straight at you.

Welcome to the next 5 years my friends............... it will get far worse!

 

The foxes belong here
The immigrants dont

 

I may have come across wrong Matty. It just happens that in the last few months there was the WW1 centenary and now the WW2 one so naturally there are going to be events marking these events and rightly so. I was just thinking that no matter what solemn occasion you're marking, there can be a point where it reaches overkill and where the essence of it can be lost. Once you see Chris Evans & Dizzy Rascal I think we've reached that point. One wonders what the old veterans who're no longer with us would make of it all.

In my own neck of the woods they now have yearly parade/ceremony....circus to mark another violent event. This never used to be the case & I don't know which bright spark decided it was a progressive move. Marking such things should only be done very seldomly & with decorum.

The war hawks don't like this kind of talk of course but that's a good thing.

 

That was a party political broadcast on behalf of the United Kingdom Independence Party

 

As neither Tories or Labour care about the British people, why bother

 

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In 2011, there was a public referendum regarding the adoption of the 'Alternative Vote system' over keeping First Past the Post. The result of that was a 68% vote in favour of keeping the current system.

That was only 4 years ago, during the last administration.

Anyone who says they didn't get the opportunity to vote for a change in the system are forgetting that fact.

And had we now an SNP/Labour government, those people complaining would be praising the system for giving them the government they wanted.

GET OVER IT......

 

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If your local area gets fracked into oblivion and the value of your house plummets to zero or your employer sacks you 'cos he can get someone else to do your job for half the salary and you have no comeback as the Human Rights Legislation has been repealed would you like anybody to come on here and tell you to get over it?

People are fearful Chaz and rightly so.......................a little empathy perhaps or are you really that devoid of feelings for your fellow man?

 

Does that 65% include those too apathetic to vote or is it strictly those who voted otherwise.

 

Pils, in the south, most fracking is in the southern counties, and the Tories would be brave to try and push that through. Can't see it happening given all the fuss that's been made so far when any fracking is suggested.

Losing your job is covered by employment laws which won't be affected by Human Rights amendments. More likely to be a terrorist caught trying to stick a bomb on the Tube, who argues he can't be deported because he owns a cat in the UK (sorry for the cynicism).

I do accept however that certain sections of society, for example the genuinely disabled, will be fearful as you say, and the government must do all it can to reassure them that their welfare will not be cut