Off Topic The QPR Not 606 Rolling Election Poll

[Chaz]

Its amazing how anyone could think UKIP Andy is left-leaning!

It's amazing that you pop up so regularly, but contribute nothing but attempts to incite slanging matches.

 

[Stroller]

We've managed seventy pages plus with very little personal sniping. Please don't introduce it now with such comments, you're not doing yourself any favours saying things like that, Stroller.

Don't be so pompous, Chaz, can't you recognise sarcasm? You are not helping by accusing people of sour grapes and whining.

Much of what I have heard from Tories since Friday morning has been of a gloating nature. You won, we get it, but people should be entitled to express concerns over what unfettered Toryism will bring in the next five years.

 

[Swords Hoopster.]

I hold no view on whether fox-hunting is right or wrong, because I've only ever seen rural foxes and have little knowledge of the subject.

Rural foxes are the ones that get hunted mate.

 

[Chaz]

Of course they are. I've edited the original post.

Sorry, I was typing that on my new phone, whilst quaffing champagne with my banker buddies at the club, which distracted my mind a little.

And for those who can't recognise it, that was sarcasm. It was really a double espresso in my local independent java house...

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[Chaz]

Don't be so pompous, Chaz, can't you recognise sarcasm? You are not helping by accusing people of sour grapes and whining.

Much of what I have heard from Tories since Friday morning has been of a gloating nature. You won, we get it, but people should be entitled to express concerns over what unfettered Toryism will bring in the next five years.

So I'm supposed to be fine with you saying I advocate infanticide?

 

[Swords Hoopster.]

And BBH 'left-leaning'

He'll be telling us Mussolini was left-leaning next.

Chaz has been the most aggressive poster on this thread and that's saying something considering me & COL have been on it the whole while!

He's starting to crack. This whole debate seems to have been too much for him. Imagine what kind of a meltdown he'd be in if the Tories lost!

One flew over the Cuckoo's nest...

 

[rangercol]

He'll be telling us Mussolini was left-leaning next.

Chaz has been the most aggressive poster on this thread and that's saying something considering me & COL have been on it the whole while!

He's starting to crack. This whole debate seems to have been too much for him. Imagine what kind of a meltdown he'd be in if the Tories lost!

One flew over the Cuckoo's nest...

Casting another line out Swords?

 

[Sooperhoop]

Chaz has defended his views well on this thread, it seems the lefties can't handle the result...

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Sour grapes Chaz?...........not particularly, i just dont want...........

Country wide Fracking by foreign Energy Companies , the abolition of the Human Rights Act, the privatisation of the NHS, the vilification of the disabled, the unemployed, the poor, the working poor, a tax on Disability Benefits, the return of blood sports, HS2, Free Schools, a reduction in funding for renewable energy, a lack of social housing, tax breaks for millionaires, the list is bleeding endless.................but nonetheless i dont want most of it!

Fracking - agree

Human Rights - let's have the final court of adjudication as our Supreme Court, rather than a court in Strasbourg manned by judges from such bastions of the rights of human beings as Albania, Serbia and Bosnia.

Privatisation of the NHS - Ain't gonna happen

Vilification of the disabled - the thinking is that the Coalition looked hard at disabled benefits and weeded out the unentitled (which were not as numerous as first thought). That being the case, the Government should look elsewhere for the necessary cuts and I'll complain as loudly as anyone else if they don't

The unemployed - unemployment went down under the Coalition - it needs to keep coming down

Working poor - troubling, and I think the minimum wage should be upped asap. (easy for me to say when I don't have to balance the books)

Blood sports - I wouldn't support their return, but foxes do have to be controlled and ironically, hunting is the only method of control that ensures that a fox is not left injured to die a lengthy and painful death

HS2 and Free schools deserve threads of their own!

 

[sheffordqpr]

Ahem, sorry to butt in, but the LABOUR party stated selling off the NHS in the 70's. If anyone insists on making rash statements, at least let them be based on truth.

 

[Stroller]

So I'm supposed to be fine with you saying I advocate infanticide?

Oh dear. I was attempting to satirise your seemingly blind adherence to the Tory party and anything they say or do, Chaz. I don't actually believe that you or the Tories favour infanticide.

 

[Kilburn]

I'm surprised there are any foxes left in the countryside, most of them are urban now living on fast food leftovers if our local ones are anything to go by...

or............

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[sb_73]

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[Swords Hoopster.]

Chaz has defended his views well on this thread, it seems the lefties can't handle the result...

Says the lifetime Labour supporter!

 

[Pils-the-hoop]

Fracking - agree


Privatisation of the NHS - Ain't gonna happen



Privatisation of the NHS -

Currently bids are open to private health care companies from the NHS to tender for a contract worth between £700m and £1.1bn to provide health services including end of life care for people in Cambridge and Peterborough.

This tops the previous record of £450m awarded to VirginCare by the NHS.

According to the Register of Interests 1 in 4 Tory MP's have a recent or present financial connection to companies or individuals involved in healthcare and include - Lord Ashcroft, David Cameron, George Osbourne and Andrew Lansley, amongst a total of approx 72 listed Tory MPs.



If you want the full list I can happily provide it for you if someone can show me how to set up a link.

 

[Pils-the-hoop]

Privatisation of the NHS -
Currently bids are open to private health care companies from the NHS to tender for a contract worth between £700m and £1.1bn to provide health services including end of life care for people in Cambridge and Peterborough.
This tops the previous record of £450m awarded to VirginCare by the NHS.
According to the Register of Interests 1 in 4 Tory MP's have a recent or present financial connection to companies or individuals involved in healthcare and include - Lord Ashcroft, David Cameron, George Osbourne and Andrew Lansley, amongst a total of approx 72 listed Tory MPs.
If you want the full list I can happily provide it for you if someone can show me how to set up a link.

 

[sb_73]

Well, election is done, plenty of time to get used to the aftermath. General conclusions from my perspective (on the thread, not the election), good fun, but I don't think any of the main protagonists changed their minds from their starting position. Would have been good to have had a Scot/surrogate Scot to put the SNP perspective - Steelmonkey, where were you? Likewise Kippers, lots of votes, no voice. Mainly good tempered, but its a bit worrying how easily we slip into stereotypes and just oppose views for the sake of opposing rather than trying to understand them - I am as guilty of this as anyone. Hopefully our elected leaders will spend a bit more time listening.

Thread awards:

The Floyd Mayweather Dodging the Punches and Hitting Back Award - Chaz, even though he sometimes chose to ignore all but one or two words in some posts.
The Good Lord I Thought I Was Cynical Award - Sooper. Good Lord I thought I was cynical.
The Lenin in Exile in Switzerland Award - Ossie, see you at the Finland Station mate.
The Existential Despair of the Left Award - Stroller. One day you may have a party with a chance on the ballot paper.
The Agent Provocateur Award - Swords, light blue touchpaper and stand back.
The Honourary Flyer Extreme Paranoia Award - Goldie - BBC bias! SNP self interest!

Cheers lads.

 

[Pils-the-hoop]

Fracking - the fact that oil is going to run out, added to the Eastern European situation making provision of gas less certain, means it's an inevitability and one we shouldn't ignore. The controls have to be far tighter than they appear, however.
Tax on benefits - last time I was unemployed, I claimed for about four months before getting a job. I was hoping not to need to claim, but I had to on order that my mortgage insurance would cough up. After I got a job, I was sent a demand for the tax on the unemployment benefit I received. So I'm not unused to the situation. Disability benefits - once validated - should provide for peole's needs. People that need help should get it, but people who don't need the help and choose to sponge or cheat should have the money removed.
Affordable housing - the right to decent housing is unarguable. The place that house is, and the size of the house, should be determined properly - so that the best possible value from the available budget can be gained.

Answer your question?

Not really!

Is there no alternative to oil then?

For the record oil is a long way from running out my friend - the USA is sitting on over 2000 years worth of readily available though as yet untapped oil based upon current global demand.

It was specifically the tax placed on Disability Benefit that I was referring to.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Privatisation of the NHS -
Currently bids are open to private health care companies from the NHS to tender for a contract worth between £700m and £1.1bn to provide health services including end of life care for people in Cambridge and Peterborough.
This tops the previous record of £450m awarded to VirginCare by the NHS.
According to the Register of Interests 1 in 4 Tory MP's have a recent or present financial connection to companies or individuals involved in healthcare and include - Lord Ashcroft, David Cameron, George Osbourne and Andrew Lansley, amongst a total of approx 72 listed Tory MPs.
If you want the full list I can happily provide it for you if someone can show me how to set up a link.

Connection to healthcare - very broad- would include public companies so presumably having shares in Boots would qualify

Outsourcing certain work isn't unusual in big organisations - cleaning for example - if it's medical care, then I agree it's more fundamental. If it could be shown that it was awarded to a private company in which a minister has a financial interest this would set off alarm bells - but can it?

I'm confident the NHS will remain free at the point of use, but health tourism should be looked at and abusing the system like regularly failing to turn up for doctor's appointments should incur a fine imo

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Well, election is done, plenty of time to get used to the aftermath. General conclusions from my perspective (on the thread, not the election), good fun, but I don't think any of the main protagonists changed their minds from their starting position. Would have been good to have had a Scot/surrogate Scot to put the SNP perspective - Steelmonkey, where were you? Likewise Kippers, lots of votes, no voice. Mainly good tempered, but its a bit worrying how easily we slip into stereotypes and just oppose views for the sake of opposing rather than trying to understand them - I am as guilty of this as anyone. Hopefully our elected leaders will spend a bit more time listening.

Thread awards:

The Floyd Mayweather Dodging the Punches and Hitting Back Award - Chaz, even though he sometimes chose to ignore all but one or two words in some posts.
The Good Lord I Thought I Was Cynical Award - Sooper. Good Lord I thought I was cynical.
The Lenin in Exile in Switzerland Award - Ossie, see you at the Finland Station mate.
The Existential Despair of the Left Award - Stroller. One day you may have a party with a chance on the ballot paper.
The Agent Provocateur Award - Swords, light blue touchpaper and stand back.
The Honourary Flyer Extreme Paranoia Award - Goldie - BBC bias! SNP self interest!

Cheers lads.

Very good, Stan! Said my bit on the BBC now and don't want to sound like a broken record. Only just begun on the SNP...