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If all handballs became penalties, I foresee a lot of injuries as balls are pounded at other players from a close distance.
It use to be like that.... I can't remember injuries.

It's a lose lose situation, no matter what happens. Players certainly use there hands/arms to their advantage and rely on the ball to hand motion these days.
 
There was a time when it used to be. As for the time factor between himself and himself, surely that's his problem. He got plenty of warning beforehand. As I said before, I have an example of a penalty being given not so long ago, so history says handball.
Of course you can find examples of similar situations given and not given. That is history and interpretation of a dodgy law.

What is an absolute fact, something that could easily be proved scientifically should you so choose is that the human brain cannot react as quickly as that particular ball to hand situation. Literally a fraction of a second. And then of course, somehow manoeuvring his hands into the correct position. Physically impossible.

Look at it another way, ball from foot to hand was far quicker than ball from hand to crossing the goal line and yet the goalkeeper still couldn't react quickly enough to save it even though his eyes would have been on the ball the whole time.

I'm not disagreeing with you that it could easily have been disallowed. But I am certainly saying that it is a 100% impossibility that it was an intentional handball.
 
Of course you can find examples of similar situations given and not given. That is history and interpretation of a dodgy law.

What is an absolute fact, something that could easily be proved scientifically should you so choose is that the human brain cannot react as quickly as that particular ball to hand situation. Literally a fraction of a second. And then of course, somehow manoeuvring his hands into the correct position. Physically impossible.

Look at it another way, ball from foot to hand was far quicker than ball from hand to crossing the goal line and yet the goalkeeper still couldn't react quickly enough to save it even though his eyes would have been on the ball the whole time.

I'm not disagreeing with you that it could easily have been disallowed. But I am certainly saying that it is a 100% impossibility that it was an intentional handball.

Having seen it several times, I don't agree.
 
There is only one real way to clear up the handball rule and that is to allow it, i would ban catching apart from the keeper but why shouldn't an outfield player be allowed to use his hands?
 
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I am surprised that no one has commented on the appointment of Bob Bradley at Swansea seeing that he is the first American manager in the Premier League. I think this is staggering enough especially when you consider that he has been poached from Le Harve who play in the French First Division where the quality of football is probably the equivalent of our Division One. If I was a Swans fan, I would be really concerned despite the experience that Bradley has at international level. For me, he seems a massive risk and I would have thought Swansea would have been better sticking by Guidolin. Getting rid of Garry Monk now seems a massive mistake.

The other issue is that someone like Steve Bruce has been overlooked in favour of Bradley who appears to have been chosen because the new owners are American. I would not be too hopeful either is this is the kind of judgement call the owners will be making. I can understand why Giggs was not chosen as I think he is both unproven and too much of a marque appointment but even the American would be no more of a risk than the ex-Man Utd player.

It is interesting that English managers are being squeezed out and I can appreciate why this is necessary because there simply are not enough English managers who are good enough. The likes of Wenger, Koeman, Pochettino, Klopp, Ranieri and Guardiola are far, far superior to their British counterparts. It is quite clear why so may clubs choose a continental manager yet the appointment of an American with no experience in the English game must be the biggest slap in the face yet. I personally think this appointment will end up relegating Swansea but we wait and see.

I wonder may many people in the days of Roy Wegerle would have predicted an American coach at this level?

Apart from all the people commenting on the appointment of Bob Bradley on the previous page!? :)
 
There is only one real way to clear up the handball rule and that is to allow it, i would ban catching apart from the keeper but why shouldn't an outfield player be allowed to use his hands?

Ummm... not sure if serious <erm>
 
http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...t/news-story/f99e31aeb7a9059d8ab3de376ffbfa96

An ex-player has been awarded damages of 7 million after a 10 year court battle with Spurs. He had a heart attack and sustained brain damage after being played despite a scan which showed he had heart problems. Spurs won't pay the money...the damages are against their former physicians (presumably their insurance companies).
 
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...chances-created-Crystal-Palace-sportgalleries

In a list of players who have created chances in the EPL this season, Redmond comes in 10th (17 chances) and Tadic comes in 3rd (22). Interestingly, Puncheon is the player who has created the most chances (24).

Punch is 30 now and I think potentially could have his best couple of years. He is a hugely talented footballer with a wand of a left foot. He perhaps is maturing as a person and that can help him on the pitch. He'll start using his brain and his left foot rather than his youthful exuberance. If I was his manager, I'd play him in the hole.
 
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/footbal...t/news-story/f99e31aeb7a9059d8ab3de376ffbfa96

An ex-player has been awarded damages of 7 million after a 10 year court battle with Spurs. He had a heart attack and sustained brain damage after being played despite a scan which showed he had heart problems. Spurs won't pay the money...the damages are against their former physicians (presumably their insurance companies).
Just read that this poor lad can now not see, talk or walk. The damage was done because it took 16 mins to get a defibrillator to him....thank goodness, football is more aware of the need for this now. Ten years to get him compensation is disgraceful as he didn't know he had a heart problem, but the medics at Spurs did.
 
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Just read that this poor lad can now not see, talk or walk. The damage was done because it took 16 mins to get a defibrillator to him....thank goodness, football is more aware of the need for this now. Ten years to get him compensation is disgraceful as he didn't know he had a heart problem, but the medics at Spurs did.

Not that individuals were not culpable, but I like the way Spurs, the club, appear to distance themselves from their former employees actions. That's generous of them. I also like way they are managing not to pay the compensation themselves. Still, at least the player gets £7M. I think he'd have preferred his senses. And yes, 10 years is disgraceful. One gets the feeling that was down to Spurs finding ways to dodge this way and that, given their position in the outcome.
 
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Not that individuals were not culpable, but I like the way Spurs, the club, appear to distance themselves from their former employees actions. That's generous of them. I also like way they are managing not to pay the compensation themselves. Still, at least the player gets £7M. I think he'd have preferred his senses. And yes, 10 years is disgraceful. One gets the feeling that was down to Spurs finding ways to dodge this way and that, given their position in the outcome.

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm a little disappointed this seems to have been kept fairly quiet media wise. One would hope Spurs were a little more genuine in their apologies and handling this.
 
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