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ForestHillBilly said:
Prime Ministers:
1 Wilson
2 Major
3 Brown
4 Heath
5 Cameron
6 Callaghan
7 Thatcher
8 Blair.
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For impact on the country (whether for good or evil is in the eye of the beholder)
1 Thatcher - Miners / Falklands
2 Blair - Gulf wars, New Labour
3 Heath - Took us into the EEC/Common Market
4 Cameron - Held the referendum which will take us out the EU
5 Major - NI Peace deal
6 Wilson - Gave the Beatles MBE's
7 Callaghan - Nice Sunny Jim
8 Brown - Bottle job Brown

I stress not necessarily the order of the best to worst
 
I put Blair bottom because he is the only one I truly despise. Whatever I think of Mrs T's politics, she did write personally to every single family who lost a member of the armed forces in the Falklands War, whereas Blair avoided meeting them, having taken them into action by lying.
 
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Agree 100% FHB. Thatcher did some bad stuff, but Blair was just criminal. He broke international law, weakened the UN, and all because he wanted to stand by Bush. Even now, with the mess in the middle east there for all to see, he still refuses to consider he has done wrong. Evil little man. Thankfully I wasn't in the country when he got in, as up to the Iraq war, I would have voted for him.
 
I must admit I've got great respect for most (not all) politicians. They do a difficult job, and have to please an electorate which demands the impossible. If they distort the truth at times it's our fault, because we want to believe soundbites rather than tough realities. Newspaper owners know this, and the only publications I trust are Private Eye, The Big Issue and New Scientist.
 
ForestHillBilly said:
I must admit I've got great respect for most (not all) politicians. They do a difficult job, and have to please an electorate which demands the impossible. If they distort the truth at times it's our fault, because we want to believe soundbites rather than tough realities. Newspaper owners know this, and the only publications I trust are Private Eye, The Big Issue and New Scientist.
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Complete opposite for me.

Self serving ****ers.
 
AllHellLetLoose said:
Not quite <ok> 99% of the electorate chose a Party they wish to represent them.... the Party choses the Politician.
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The electorate are free to join the party of their choice in order to take part in the democratic process of choosing a candidate. The vast majority don't bother, and you end up with Jeremy Corbyn as Leader of Her Majesty's Opposition, for instance. Rather than point the finger at Momentum, I'd point the finger at the moderate labour supporters who choose to take no part in this aspect of democracy. We are all free to do so, in whatever Party we support.
 
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