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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Now he's in his last year Obama is beginning to talk freely. I have no doubt he said what he truly believes rather than doing Dave a favour - a few months ago he was slagging Dave off for the non existent end game in Libya. And of course it is in the US interest for us to stay in, if successive governments of any shade behave the way they have for my lifetime.

I find Johnson and Farage claiming Obama is anti British because of his Kenyan heritage both pathetic and embarrassing, especially from Johnson who has become spectacularly anti American since he got a big tax bill off of the IRS and threatened to renounce his US citizenship (he may have actually done this, not sure) because of it.


I don't know if they were subsidised before, but agree that they certainly would be if we left, can't see the mileage in stopping that for anyone. It would be good if we could reduce that subsidy by getting the supermarkets to pay a bit more for British produce, but as that would doubtless be passed on to the shopper unlikely to be a vote winner.


The supermarkets certainly do screw the farmers, but as you say, it's the consumers who govern things.
 
Cowardly bastard didn't even start any wars did he? You don't have to drop bombs on people to be a successful politician - the deal he struck with Iran was a major strategic victory.


It was and I quite like Obama. However, I do feel he's been pretty disappointing.
It must be remembered that he would never accept the US being part of a state with other countries and everything he has said is completely and utterly only to help and protect his country.
He couldn't care less what the consequences of a remain vote may bring to Britain.
 
I hope they stay at home on polling day.

Given that they will have much longer to endure the consequences, young people's votes should really carry more weight. There should be a sliding scale of weighting based on age whereby a 20 year-old's vote counts twice as much as a 60 year-old's. The votes of 80 year-olds shouldn't count at all.
 
Given that they will have much longer to endure the consequences, young people's votes should really carry more weight. There should be a sliding scale of weighting based on age whereby a 20 year-old's vote counts twice as much as a 60 year-old's. The votes of 80 year-olds shouldn't count at all.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssuuuuuuuussssssssss!
 
Given that they will have much longer to endure the consequences, young people's votes should really carry more weight. There should be a sliding scale of weighting based on age whereby a 20 year-old's vote counts twice as much as a 60 year-old's. The votes of 80 year-olds shouldn't count at all.

A perfect example of Left-Wing 'democracy'...<laugh>
 
Osborne is going to part nationalise the steel industry, some common sense one nation politics from the Tories for the first time since 1975. Whatever next?

I read that this was Cameron's decision. He doesn't want to be remembered for presiding over the demise of the British steel industry.

Whatever, it's a welcome move.
 
The supermarkets certainly do screw the farmers, but as you say, it's the consumers who govern things.

What? Colin have you lost it mate?
The consumers consume and believe me it's very easy to make do so
The mindset of people can been so eroded in the UK of the electric went out they wouldn't know what to do
And where does your power come from ... It maybe France
The entire country is governed by spending and a lot of it by people who have no money to spend oh yes the consumers are totally in control

Good grief
 
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