SBS he might have been (probably bored the enemy into surrendering) but what a sanctimonious old fossil. If you agree with the Remain camp than perhaps you did think he done well. Personally thought the audience responded with his scripted answers with the derision they deserved. Well done agent Paddy, another couple hundred votes moved to the Out campaign.
talking of Doctors walking away after the tax-payer funds their qualifications, I see up to 5,000 doctors are ready to up sticks and move abroad for better wages and conditions. Most to Aus and the USA, not many to our European neighbours
Shame isn't it? But the younger ones have paid tuition fees. Quite a few are going to Romania to train now, the qualification has equal validity to a UK one, and they can afford it. And we get real Romanians back, undermining their health system, where they have 80 year old surgeons who can't retire because there is no one else to operate on patients. I think there are also huge numbers in the UK who are simply retiring early, and that's definitely a massive issue in nursing. As long as they don't all want to be MPs like Dr Fox. The NHS is a textbook disaster in terms of workforce planning, hugely dependent on imported labour, massively unhappy employees, failing against many of the Government's metrics. Even paying the clinicians more (which we should) won't solve things, at least in the short term.
Good Skills Not stopping there either looking to buy in Corse next ... Now that is a place I love. All now hinges on the fact that a postman who works for the same account as me has done a Jimmy Saville on kids ... Cnut has been locked up so good but only in the UK we may lose my account that gives me flexible working overseas. I maybe back sooner than I thought working in Tescos ... Tell me that the UK isn't a cultural mess when scandal is bigger than business Still life changes everyday lads
Hooray, just heard Nigel Farridge on the wireless admitting that the £350m per week UK spend on the EU is the 'gross figure' and net of the rebate and what the EU subsidises in the UK the net spend is about half that. He also said that the £3bn subsidy from the EU to British agriculture would 'of course' be maintained, and that 'you can't claim that an extra £350m per week would be spent on the NHS'. And he said it all with good grace. Of course in pure government spending terms we would save a little money (relatively) by leaving, but I don't think it's a particularly strong Brexit argument, particularly if they contradict each other on the figures.
It's a house of cards, really. The 'net spend' is actually far less than half, so he's probably still lying through his teeth about the numbers. As for the £3bn subsidy, that would be maintained only if we are in the EU. If we voted to leave, why should the EU subsidise our farmers? The only thing that actually surprised me in your post, mate, was when you said he spoke with good grace. The only time that could be said was when he stepped down as UKIP leader after failing to get elected in 2015. And we all know how that one worked out, don't we...
I wasn't clear, the U.K. Government would subsidise the farmers out of the savings from not being in the EU. According to Nige, who of course won't be anywhere near the government in any circumstances. He really was quite straightforward on this, none of the wriggling we have seen from Gove and the ignoring or mocking the question we get from Johnson, I was quite surprised. Then again it was off the back of 5 minutes slagging of Obama for having an opinion, he might have been exhausted.
So he basically said that farmers shouldn't worry about being destitute, because any post-Brexit government (of which he would not be a part, as you said) would bail them out to the tune of a ring-fenced £3bn a year? And also cover the costs of managing the scheme? Can I be the first to call bullshit on that?
Were farmers not subsidised by the British government before we joined the common market? There's no reason to think they won't be after we have achieved independence.
There's every reason to know that there is not an endless pot of money for farmers, and that the EU subsidy will evaporate quicker than a writer's flatulence...
Having just listened to Obama, I fear that, unfortunately, his strong support and dire predictions will have won the day for Cameron. I will never believe another word dodgy dave ever says again after his lies and double talk over the EU.
Money could be a factor Col? As you know I was from a farm and a big one at that ... Now we just have a crop spraying business which is dissapearing fast The best returns even back then was to grow caravans and sell any outbuildings to craft shop wannabes who go bust in 6 months We can't also compete outside Europe and any farmer I still know get screwed by the UK supermarkets who have zero loyalty to contract Have you ever seen a French or European modern farm? ... Different gear old kiddy MG claimed he was going to also restart the English fishing industry by naming a few sea ports he went to once to get sucked off Don't get me wrong I would love it if the UK had these things back and competitive and growing horses eggs once again In Sussex you have to pay to go and see a lamb or even some bluebells That's where many farms have ended up serving cous cous and selling bonne Madame jams in English pots
Obama didn't pull his punches did he? Saying we'd be 'at the back of the queue' for trade deals sounded more like a threat than a warning.
Now he's in his last year Obama is beginning to talk freely. I have no doubt he said what he truly believes rather than doing Dave a favour - a few months ago he was slagging Dave off for the non existent end game in Libya. And of course it is in the US interest for us to stay in, if successive governments of any shade behave the way they have for my lifetime. I find Johnson and Farage claiming Obama is anti British because of his Kenyan heritage both pathetic and embarrassing, especially from Johnson who has become spectacularly anti American since he got a big tax bill off of the IRS and threatened to renounce his US citizenship (he may have actually done this, not sure) because of it. I don't know if they were subsidised before, but agree that they certainly would be if we left, can't see the mileage in stopping that for anyone. It would be good if we could reduce that subsidy by getting the supermarkets to pay a bit more for British produce, but as that would doubtless be passed on to the shopper unlikely to be a vote winner.
I think Obama's intervention might actually backfire on Cameron as there's nothing more likely to get people's backs up more than veiled threats, especially from an outgoing President who has been widely seen as a spineless failure. Sure, if we do exit I expect some cost to be borne by the voters but the stories of some sort of Armageddon are, frankly, pathetic. Britain has so much to offer worldwide without the shackles of a financially reckless 'superstate' sucking us dry and dumping countless economic migrants on us when we are bursting at the seams. They need us far more than we need them and they know it, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility the EU would break up in a short time if we left...
Cowardly bastard didn't even start any wars did he? You don't have to drop bombs on people to be a successful politician - the deal he struck with Iran was a major strategic victory.
