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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Goldhawk-Road said:
The problem I was referring to was one of decision making. Energy will be a problem from the autumn, the degree will depend to some extent on Russia.

I have no idea whether Sunak or Truss could agree on an energy policy at this stage, but given the hustings, I suspect not. The matter must be determined by the new pm in September. There will be a new Chancellor and a new budget then.
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I think energy already is a problem (at least on the petrol side). The current prices are already 50% higher than they were since last match.

You are right though that it will be further compounded by energy rises in october and the increased use across winter.

We already knew about this problem at the beginning of the year and nothing has been done except that 400 quid loan.
 
sb_73 said:
? You were the one who stated it’s a problem. Because people need to plan their budgets. Currently predicted a rise of between 64 and 78% in October, then another rise in January, and no return to ‘normal’ prices for at least 3 years. Might not be a big issue for you, or me, but many people are stressed to buggery about this, on top of rampant food inflation.

Anyway, what do you think about the, from my perspective quite reasonable, idea that these Tories get together and agree a policy in the very near term?
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A sensible post. Some others just don't get it.

We gave a good guy at work a modest pay rise yesterday, who was on a low wage. His reaction was of genuine relief, even mentioned that it would come in handy for the energy price rises. People are terrified now.

I do OK and we have a small household of 3. A massive hike would be hard for us to cover. There's no way a family of 4 or 5 on low income will cope.

Something has to be done before it pushes people over the edge. Not to mention all of the businesses that will go to the wall because of the increases combined with general lack of disposable income impacting their sales.

Should the majority really be working only to merely exist in 2022? In some cases, even that will become very difficult. Desperate times.
 
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daverangers said:
Agree. I've watched from Paris as more and more businesses have left the UK and moved to mainland Europe. There are still those who say it is too early to tell with Brexit, but I fear that they'll be saying that for years to come as a way of hiding the disappointment of how it has panned out.

All just quite sad to see.
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I have retired now Dave and resident of France so out of it but still sad.
Just Before I finished work my ex employer had been involved with over 9500 U.K. companies that had relocated to new head offices in Europe. Majority were in the financial sector … Billions of pounds

We also did a lot of publishing for the U.K. government for Brexit and during CoVid

When you get to look under the bonnet of things you can see how the engine works

I can state in terms of U.K. politics there is no engine. Corporations saw this immediately and reacted.

Some good news for the blind Anglo Saxons nearly every account I worked on I saw that reversible strategies were accounted for but the fact remain why did they not have confidence in the U.K.?
 
BP reports profits of £7bn in the second quarter, on the back of gas and oil prices, no added value, productivity or any actual work involved.

Thank god Truss, when she is anointed Tory queen, wants to cut the tax they pay. Nothing ****ed up about her principles.
 
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sb_73 said:
BP reports profits of £7bn in the second quarter, on the back of gas and oil prices, no added value, productivity or any actual work involved.

Thank god Truss, when she is anointed Tory queen, wants to cut the tax they pay. Nothing ****ed up about her principles.
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All for businesses making a profit but this is obscene during these times. Snouts and troughs comes to mind.
 
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SW Ranger said:
All for businesses making a profit but this is obscene during these times. Snouts and troughs comes to mind.
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But we can't do anything about it because they might take their snouts and bury them into someone else's trough. We are not even allowed to snuffle around for windfalls. Of course what they don't tell you is that: We are not even allowed to snuffle around for windfalls.

1 They won't leave at all. It's far too cosy and easy for them
2 The real reason is because they have been bought by the owners of those businesses. The money raised in taxes and given to these people, many of whom have the skills only to **** up a piss up in a brewery, simply go back into the coffer of the Conservative party and not the public purse from which they originated.
 
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