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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Quite Possibly Raving said:
The key bit is the role for the ECJ. If Boris is willing to admit this, like you, them we could reach a compromise.
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This government doesn't want a compromise, it seems to me. It suits them to prolong the conflict with the EU. It got them elected with a massive majority and it's the only way it can retain that 'Get Brexit Done' support. Col said in a recent post that he thought Johnson was useless but that he was good at 'standing up to the EU'. It's all Johnson has.
 
Stroller said:
This government doesn't want a compromise, it seems to me. It suits them to prolong the conflict with the EU. It got them elected with a massive majority and it's the only way it can retain that 'Get Brexit Done' support. Col said in a recent post that he thought Johnson was useless but that he was good at 'standing up to the EU'. It's all Johnson has.
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I get that, but can he really go into a 23/24 election campaigning to Get Brexit Done having made the same promise in '19?

"I promise to do the thing I promised to do last time but haven't?"

Maybe the plan is to compromise months before the election, claim it as a massive victory and then go for another term.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
You show photographs of rainbow poppies with only an oblique reference attached. You either assume we're all aware of the history of this, which I suspect most are not - or, more likely, you're hoping that someone takes your post with photographs at face value and comments, so you can jump up and down and shout "See what I mean!"

If the rainbow poppies are a genuine attempt to smear LGBTQ then that's wrong, and if you'd explained that in your original post, you'd most likely have got a "like" from me. My view is that what someone's sexual orientation is, is no business of mine. Live and let live. If a six foot, five inch ex docker with a beard wants to wear a dress and be called Alice, that's fine with me. What concerns me right now are attempts to confuse children about their own sexuality by asking them to wear dresses to school etc. Almost as if the gay leadership are looking to increase membership. And I'm wary of Stonewall and the undoubted power it has by starting a witch hunt against any company that won't adopt its advice. That's the background to my posts.
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Goldie have I jumped down your or anyone else’s throat? I don’t think so, that’s an assumption bit like schools getting their students to wear skirts, I thought from reading a story about that, the students were the ones wanting to do that. With regards to other LGBTQ issues at school as far as I can see all it is just acknowledging there are many different types who don’t fit the socially created ‘norms’ which have changed throughout history, and saying that’s fine and to be respectful. Yet if you see what certain elements of the media and what’s all over social media, a totally different narrative is pushed in what seems to be an effort to demonise the community and the groups.

I’ve had many dealings with Stonewall and I don’t see that and believe it’s somewhat again media fabrication based on any incidents that get blown out of proportion and a false narrative created. I do recognise that Stonewall certainly has some issues, they have got certain statements very wrong, especially in regards to trans issues. I see they are a little disorganised, however my biggest issue with them is their top 100 LGBTQ friendly companies, and how you can rise in that. Usually by paying them for courses.

Anyway.. the point is people need to be more weary of anti lgbtq stories, as there are clearly nothing out of bounds for those looking to paint the community in a bad light. You’d also have to question why people are wanting others to see them as an enemy.
 
Quite Possibly Raving said:
I get that, but can he really go into a 23/24 election campaigning to Get Brexit Done having made the same promise in '19?

"I promise to do the thing I promised to do last time but haven't?"

Maybe the plan is to compromise months before the election, claim it as a massive victory and then go for another term.
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As I said, it's all he's got. Oh, and vaccines, but that doesn't really work anymore.

If they stop the conflict with the EU everyone will be able focus on the disaster that Brexit has been and might just blame our government for it, rather than the EU.
 
Quite Possibly Raving said:
I get that, but can he really go into a 23/24 election campaigning to Get Brexit Done having made the same promise in '19?

"I promise to do the thing I promised to do last time but haven't?"

Maybe the plan is to compromise months before the election, claim it as a massive victory and then go for another term.
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Probably more likely to go the other way. Hype up the ‘war with dem Europeans wot want to punish us’ and say Labour will surrender something something Remoaners something something woke liberal Europhiles.

Probably increase the majority off the back of that alone.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
Actually, I'm sick of the powerful Stonewall (and others) lobby trying to hijack everything in their own interests. The poppy represents all those who gave their life for their country in war, irrespective of sexual orientation. This one day is not all about LGBT stuff, with which we get soaked for the other 364.
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Do you really feel soaked by it 364 days a year?
 
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| NEW: Tory MP Iain Duncan Smith is facing questions over his £25,000-a-year second job advising a multimillion-pound hand sanitiser company after he chaired a government taskforce that recommended new rules benefiting the firm
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kiwiqpr said:
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He is an expert in hand sanitising.

That's why they sought his 'advice' obviously.
 
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Josh Leier

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Trudeau plans to “limit personal consumption of hydrocarbons by individual Canadians, in terms of allowable miles travelled by motor vehicle, train or air."
The government will decide how far you get to drive.
#ClimateEmergency#climatehypocrisy
 
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sb_73 said:
Sir Geoffrey Cox

Doncha just luv him!

Nicks a million by defending people his own government is prosecuting and does it from his office in Parliament, when he’s not on the beach exploiting pandemic rules or failing to vote 29 times out of 30 in Parliamentary divisions!

What a role model to all avaricious little twats!

Probably hasn’t broken any rules though, and unless he is convicted in a criminal court his behaviour should not only be tolerated but actively praised as the sort of go getting entrepreneurial spirit that personifies the new sunlit uplands Britain. Exploiting two sets of taxpayers at the same time! Outstanding!

And what a lovely voice he has. He’s going to need it.
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Sir Geoffrey Cox issued a statement today saying that Sir Geoffrey Cox works extremely hard, Sir Geoffrey Cox is a jolly fine chap and Sir Geoffrey Cox has done absolutely nothing wrong.

So there.
 
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Imagine a British Prime Minister feeling obliged to stand up in front of the World's press to refute accusations that Britain is a corrupt nation. That's what Johnson did yesterday. He's right of course, Britain as a nation is not corrupt. Its current Prime Minister is corrupt, though, and so are many members of its Vote Leave government..
 
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Stroller said:
Imagine a British Prime Minister feeling obliged to stand up in front of the World's press to refute accusations that Britain is a corrupt nation. That's what Johnson did yesterday. He's right of course, Britain as a nation is not corrupt. Its current Prime Minister is corrupt, though, and so are many members of its Vote Leave government..
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Just waiting for some big news story to come to take the heat of the current scandal. Im sure one will be in the pipeline
 
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