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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I totally understand what youre saying Staines. Wasnt long ago that we were deporting the Windrush generation with stronger ties to this country. If every dinghy landing at dover had some tennis rackets on board with the potential of a future champ amongst them, would the outcry be as strong as it is now? Immigration has never bothered me, it does however bother millions of people and thats where there is some form of hypocricy no matter how slight.

At last….someone gets it. Thanks Bob.

It’s all so hypocritical
 
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Sorry you’re not making sense…..are you saying that I’m right in general but cannot mention any specifics to back up my case about the whole concept ?
Then how else can I back up my argument on any subject ?

I assumed you were referring to anomalies like Navratilova, where the US was effectively buying in success.

Having looked again at what you posted, are you making it broader and saying that it's bizarre that anyone should represent their country in any sport? That really is radical. No World Cup. No Olympics etc...?
 
Every single person that i know is either judgemental, prejudice, racist, anti immigrant etc from judging someone by their haircut to the colour of their skin, from tattoos to their country of origin, from accent to the way they dress. We all do it at some point in our live, success in a certain field, waters that down yet it really shouldnt. I am chuffed this lass one the tennis, its a great story but would she have been taken into the brittish hearts if she had got knocked out in the qualifiers?
 
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I assumed you were referring to anomalies like Navratilova, where the US was effectively buying in success.

Having looked again at what you posted, are you making it broader and saying that it's bizarre that anyone should represent their country in any sport? That really is radical. No World Cup. No Olympics etc...?

Thats what I’m saying….the whole concept is bizarre if you really think about it.
 
I totally understand what youre saying Staines. Wasnt long ago that we were deporting the Windrush generation with stronger ties to this country. If every dinghy landing at dover had some tennis rackets on board with the potential of a future champ amongst them, would the outcry be as strong as it is now? Immigration has never bothered me, it does however bother millions of people and thats where there is some form of hypocricy no matter how slight.

Windrush was wrong, apologies have been given by the Home Office and compensation is being paid.

Personally, I don't care if the next Roger Federer is in a dingy, if entrance to the UK is illegal, it feeds organised crime and means people with money jump the queue over immigrants that come here legally.
 
Windrush was wrong, apologies have been given by the Home Office and compensation is being paid.

Personally, I don't care if the next Roger Federer is in a dingy, if entrance to the UK is illegal, it feeds organised crime and means people with money jump the queue over immigrants that come here legally.
I dont disagree with you Goldy, if only we could take back control of our borders.........
 
I dont disagree with you Goldy, if only we could take back control of our borders.........

It will take one incredibly brave Home Secretary to solve the Channel problem. The Aussies turned the boats around and it worked. Illegal immigrants won't pay organised crime thousands of pounds if there's a good chance they'll be turned around and sent back to France.
 
I remember not long ago there was chat about being able to play for the country you played your club football in, now that would have been a step too far!
 
It will take one incredibly brave Home Secretary to solve the Channel problem. The Aussies turned the boats around and it worked. Illegal immigrants won't pay organised crime thousands of pounds if there's a good chance they'll be turned around and sent back to France.
Maybe just maybe its a problem/issue that the government doesnt want a solution to or maybe just maybe im talking absolute ****e. Probably the latter.......
 
Maybe just maybe its a problem/issue that the government doesnt want a solution to or maybe just maybe im talking absolute ****e. Probably the latter.......

If they don't solve it, they'll lose votes to the number of Brexit nationalist parties that seem to be cropping up. Not sure Priti Patel will survive a Cabinet reshuffle because of her failure
 
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I assumed you were referring to anomalies like Navratilova, where the US was effectively buying in success.

Having looked again at what you posted, are you making it broader and saying that it's bizarre that anyone should represent their country in any sport? That really is radical. No World Cup. No Olympics etc...?

I think team sports are slightly different than individuals.

Primarily though, don't think it matters where you are from, it's all down to money in the end. If you are lucky enough to be gifted with some talent, and then even luckier to be spotted by the relevant association in the country you reside, then the amount of sponsorship and grants you receive from the state is going to help you rise to the top. Hence the strength of China, USA and GB in competitions like the Olympics compared to someone like Syria, Surinam or Botswana (picked at random, no offence to any of those countries). It's funny how none of these athletes chose to represent poorer nations.
 
I think team sports are slightly different than individuals.

Primarily though, don't think it matters where you are from, it's all down to money in the end. If you are lucky enough to be gifted with some talent, and then even luckier to be spotted by the relevant association in the country you reside, then the amount of sponsorship and grants you receive from the state is going to help you rise to the top. Hence the strength of China, USA and GB in competitions like the Olympics compared to someone like Syria, Surinam or Botswana (picked at random, no offence to any of those countries). It's funny how none of these athletes chose to represent poorer nations.
Che Adams chose to:emoticon-0140-rofl::emoticon-0140-rofl:
 
I think team sports are slightly different than individuals.

Primarily though, don't think it matters where you are from, it's all down to money in the end. If you are lucky enough to be gifted with some talent, and then even luckier to be spotted by the relevant association in the country you reside, then the amount of sponsorship and grants you receive from the state is going to help you rise to the top. Hence the strength of China, USA and GB in competitions like the Olympics compared to someone like Syria, Surinam or Botswana (picked at random, no offence to any of those countries). It's funny how none of these athletes chose to represent poorer nations.

Which is why we come close to the top of the Paralympic board too.
 
I think team sports are slightly different than individuals.

Primarily though, don't think it matters where you are from, it's all down to money in the end. If you are lucky enough to be gifted with some talent, and then even luckier to be spotted by the relevant association in the country you reside, then the amount of sponsorship and grants you receive from the state is going to help you rise to the top. Hence the strength of China, USA and GB in competitions like the Olympics compared to someone like Syria, Surinam or Botswana (picked at random, no offence to any of those countries). It's funny how none of these athletes chose to represent poorer nations.

Great point