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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%
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    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
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I said before Watford are the ones that voted for an unelectable Jezza also think as mince? You avoided that the other day.

You know calling him unelectable doesn’t make him unelectable?

Poorer people would have been better off under him in all likelihood, so no. If people are affluent enough to vote for something that benefits those worse off but increases their own tax burden that’s commendable IMO.
 
You know calling him unelectable doesn’t make him unelectable?

Poorer people would have been better off under him in all likelihood, so no. If people are affluent enough to vote for something that benefits those worse off but increases their own tax burden that’s commendable IMO.

It's a clever ploy, by stating he was unelectable sounds like a definitive, and puts doubts in peoples minds. A fully costed out manifesto. I've only heard him being called unelectable by a few right wingers usually, but not exclusively, mail readers who frequent the same facebook pages
 
You know calling him unelectable doesn’t make him unelectable?

Poorer people would have been better off under him in all likelihood, so no. If people are affluent enough to vote for something that benefits those worse off but increases their own tax burden that’s commendable IMO.

So basically everyone that voted Tory is 'Thick as Mince"?
This is where you fall down Watford. Insulting the electorate that way comes across as arrogant. You are not on some higher intellectual plain to everyone else. All votes are important to each individual. People vote on many issues as you alluded to. We live in a democratic country and people's only voice is the polling booth.
When people start disrespecting them by calling them 'thick' it comes across like a spoilt child who didn't win something.
I would have thought after Goldie explained it to you the other day that you would have understood?
 
I think this is pretty much in keeping with most people. Boris is Boris to most people. As was 'Jezza' to some. Most other politicians don't get there.

But it’s not though (and I’m not just talking on hear)To the vast majority of popular press he’s referred to as ‘Boris’, whereas I can’t really think of many (if any) of the opposition who are regularly referred to by their first name....just seems a bit of a way for the press to put across the image that he’s that cuddly, friendly guy who’s everyone’s friend.
 
It's a clever ploy, by stating he was unelectable sounds like a definitive, and puts doubts in peoples minds. A fully costed out manifesto. I've only heard him being called unelectable by a few right wingers usually, but not exclusively, mail readers who frequent the same facebook pages
Well for me, I have seen nothing but anti-tory posts/memes of Facebook before and after the election. The fact is that people didn't vote for Jezza was because they never saw him as a leader and his policies were laughable at best
 
So basically everyone that voted Tory is 'Thick as Mince"?
This is where you fall down Watford. Insulting the electorate that way comes across as arrogant. You are not on some higher intellectual plain to everyone else. All votes are important to each individual. People vote on many issues as you alluded to. We live in a democratic country and people's only voice is the polling booth.
When people start disrespecting them by calling them 'thick' it comes across like a spoilt child who didn't win something.
I would have thought after Goldie explained it to you the other day that you would have understood?

I don’t know why you and Goldie are such snowflakes about this. Time and again I’ve said not all Tory voters are thick and you both still cry about it. Lots of people have good reasons for voting Tory as they’re better off (financially anyway) under them. Yourself and Goldie included probably.

I’m not saying I’m intellectually superior to everyone else. I’m intellectually superior to Bill, 63, from Workington who voted Tory to kick the Poles out.
 
I’m not saying I’m intellectually superior to everyone else. I’m intellectually superior to Bill, 63, from Workington who voted Tory to kick the Poles out.

Well, Bill from Workington deserves his vote just as much as Watford from West Windsor.
 
Well for me, I have seen nothing but anti-tory posts/memes of Facebook before and after the election. The fact is that people didn't vote for Jezza was because they never saw him as a leader and his policies were laughable at best

That's your opinion on why you consider he lost the election, for me it was a lot more to do with Brexit and how the media vilified Corbyn, a lot of people (not suggesting you) get their information from very selective sources and what some people believe about Corbyn is at best twisted and at worst flat out bollocks.
 
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That's your opinion on why you consider he lost the election, for me it was a lot more to do with Brexit and how the media vilified Corbyn, a lot of people (not suggesting you) get their information from very selective sources and what some people believe about Corbyn is at best twisted and at worst flat out bollocks.
I didn’t mention his stance on Brexit. I was saying overall people didn’t trust or believe he was PM material.
 
I still believe a leader must have some charismatic qualities. For all Boris bumbling and mumbling and lack of detail, people like him and he is popular. He is charismatic and other leaders like him. For me, Starmer is not even in the same league.

so what you're saying is he's more blair than maggie?