Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
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Actually Watford if you read a bit on the EU many European thinkers are saying it. Not to mention the recent polls in Italy and the big argument France/Germany and the ECB verdict. Spain/Greece all kicking off re money and EU help. The ignoring of EU guidelines and the shutting of borders.
Seriously, I know like to think the EU is heaven mate but you need to take off your EU tinted glasses and look at what's happening? it's it cr2p shape.

This might be a shock but I actually agree with Ellers.....this crisis has shown up the supposed unity of the EU (essentially what it is there for) to be an absolute farce.
Of course no one really wishes ill on our neighbours but what all this should remind us is that when push comes to shove.....it’s every man for himself.
 
This might be a shock but I actually agree with Ellers.....this crisis has shown up the supposed unity of the EU (essentially what it is there for) to be an absolute farce.
Of course no one really wishes ill on our neighbours but what all this should remind us is that when push comes to shove.....it’s every man for himself.
Cool.
I wanted to say the 'push comes to shove' bit myself but I thought some may find offense. Truth is the EU won't care about us and we need to put ourselves first. I want to see a thriving EU while it's still together as that benefits us.
 
Who do you believe, mate?
I think it basically says f22k off Starmer. As if he will return to the house? <doh>
Boris is correct in one part and I was going to mention this the other day. Boris has been working (cross-party) with Starmer and Sturgeon recently and they knew about certain things (in COBRA) but criticised in public when announced.
If he continues like this he will get dropped from the meetings.
I now see Starmer's game plan (with a bit of help from a political reporter) :emoticon-0100-smile
 
I think it basically says f22k off Starmer. As if he will return to the house? <doh>
Boris is correct in one part and I was going to mention this the other day. Boris has been working (cross-party) with Starmer and Sturgeon recently and they knew about certain things (in COBRA) but criticised in public when announced.
If he continues like this he will get dropped from the meetings.
I now see Starmer's game plan (with a bit of help from a political reporter) :emoticon-0100-smile

That’ll be the confirmation bias again.
 
I think it basically says f22k off Starmer. As if he will return to the house? <doh>
Boris is correct in one part and I was going to mention this the other day. Boris has been working (cross-party) with Starmer and Sturgeon recently and they knew about certain things (in COBRA) but criticised in public when announced.
If he continues like this he will get dropped from the meetings.
I now see Starmer's game plan (with a bit of help from a political reporter) :emoticon-0100-smile

Can I ask a question Ellers.....How come you refer to one of the leaders by his first name and the other two by their surnames ?
Is it just ‘cos Johnson is seen as this cuddly buffoon that everyone thinks is cuddly and lovely....(and you and others don’t realise you are doing it)......or is it for another reason and you do it on purpose.
Genuine question and not having a pop
 
Must admit I wondered if our dear ardent Brexiters would countenance pushing back negotiations in light of you know, a ****ing global pandemic but it seems not.
 
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What this nation needs!! Someone who will call this government on their persistent lies. He needs to do this time and time again. It’s unbelievable that the Torys lies go unchecked, well done Sir Kier!!
 
It's refreshing to actually have an opposition again. Surely even Corbyn's most ardent supporters are starting to see that a little professionalism goes a long way...

agree I’m possibly more akin to Corbyn’s politics but Starmer is certainly the professional statesman who might get a bit of respect on the world stage.
 
Can I ask a question Ellers.....How come you refer to one of the leaders by his first name and the other two by their surnames ?
Is it just ‘cos Johnson is seen as this cuddly buffoon that everyone thinks is cuddly and lovely....(and you and others don’t realise you are doing it)......or is it for another reason and you do it on purpose.
Genuine question and not having a pop
In the past I have said Jezza then again I always say Gove/Raab/Hancock/Sharma/Farage/Trump/Macron
Not sure why you ask? People refer to him as Boris and papers as Bojo. If Starmer had a first name like Dazza I would probably call him that.
 
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Johnson's loose relationship with the truth being exposed by Starmer's barristerial precision will be fun.
But Lawyers are boring and he comes across as dull as dishwater. The PMQ's 2 weeks ago he went on and on. People will get bored with him... I am now!