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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Staines R's said:
I would say the benefit is about 9 billion a year, Bob.
After we leave, get rid of the tories, install a government for the people and start spending it wisely.......job done :)
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I wont pretend I know the figures so will take your word for that. I'm not sure how much goes out and how much goes in but what I would love to know is how much of that 9 billion would be swallowed up in countering the effects, will any of ot generate down to those most affected. Will it ****.
 
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bobmid said:
I wont pretend I know the figures so will take your word for that. I'm not sure how much goes out and how much goes in but what I would love to know is how much of that 9 billion would be swallowed up in countering the effects, will any of ot generate down to those most affected. Will it ****.
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To be fair Bob, I had to look it up. As I’ve said before, one step at a time....in the end we’ll get there.
 
The way I see it is as following.
Bearing in mind I didnt vote in the referendum (my mistake).
The government publish their own documents regarding leaving with no deal. There is nothing beneficial (that I've seen) in these papers. Why would a Government who want to leave the EU publish something, regardless of what case scenario, that would damage their own agenda. Yes I know they were forced to by Parliment. So either, the Government is absolutely full of **** and not to be trusted OR what they say is actually likely to happen. How any reasonable brain that uses logic cant understand that is bizarre. You're either backing a government absolutely lying or backing making the country worse off. Strange times.
 
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DT’s Socks said:
People no it’s not plus the corporations are lining up to make a killing
Just consider one simple thing if you you were a big global or say just a big European company and you wanted to extend any market share in any industry then Brexit is the golden egg. Why do you think the Americans are so keen ?
We are about to weaken the UK beyond repair and the crazy thing is our own people have done it with delusions that the UK is some how best.

We are up for grabs because we got jealous about a few wine cellars and some cheese

An embedded blame culture
Self Obsession
Brainwashed by years of false nationalism refuelled by those ****s UKIP and now the Brexit party.

Now we are at a stage that it looks very much like project fear was true and still people don’t believe the damage that will happen and to make it even more crazy they haven’t a post Brexit plan and are following someone who hasn’t got one either

Another few weeks and revoke will come into play I am certain even if it’s defeated everything has to be done to make sure no one is damaged... anyone with money will be ok anyway that’s the rule of the world

What I hope happened it that it stops people’s greed and stops the death of so many businesses in the UK plus after all of this we will become stronger anyway but not with a Brexit ... it’s impossible not to have damage
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The Americans want to sell more into our market, sure. And we want restrictions removed on our goods over there. Win/win. Th EU loses out if it imposes huge tariffs. We buy from them more than we import. Their loss. They don't want a successful economy on their doorstep, and their waking up to the fact there's nothing they can do about it. The more barriers they put up, the more we take our purchasing business elsewhere
 
bobmid said:
The way I see it is as following.
Bearing in mind I didnt vote in the referendum (my mistake).
The government publish their own documents regarding leaving with no deal. There is nothing beneficial (that I've seen) in these papers. Why would a Government who want to leave the EU publish something, regardless of what case scenario, that would damage their own agenda. Yes I know they were forced to by Parliment. So either, the Government is absolutely full of **** and not to be trusted OR what they say is actually likely to happen. How any reasonable brain that uses logic cant understand that is bizarre. You're either backing a government absolutely lying or backing making the country worse off. Strange times.
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Not everyone will be worse off, Bob....

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I’m interested...

Is there anybody here that voted Leave that now would only do so if it was not a ‘no deal’ departure?

And...

Is there anybody here that voted Remain that, whilst not in support of a ‘no deal’ departure, believes that the result of the 2016 Referendum should still be honoured?

I thought Stan (who’s currently gone to ground) was in the latter camp, but I shouldn’t answer for him.

If the EU is largely intransigent over the terms of the deal offered to May, but the UK parliament has rejected those terms, and terms agreeable to the UK parliament (whatever such terms might actually be) are rejected by the EU, then what is the right answer if one still supports Leave?

I know the Remainers here will only be satisfied with remaining in the EU, but is it their contention that Leavers should go **** themselves.

Presumably this is Frome’s contention as apparently all Leavers are “****ing idiots”. I’m surprised at Frome here as he’s usually a respectful individual. I guess that’s his passion coming out.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
Done a bit of research. The longest bridge in the world is in China. Lake Pontchartrain Causeway is 102 miles long.

The closest point between Scotland and North Antrim is 12 miles. We should have it done by Christmas!
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Only if we get the Chinese in to build it, it’s taken our lot 5 ****ing years just to repair an existing bridge less than a mile long.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
I’m interested...

Is there anybody here that voted Leave that now would only do so if it was not a ‘no deal’ departure?

And...

Is there anybody here that voted Remain that, whilst not in support of a ‘no deal’ departure, believes that the result of the 2016 Referendum should still be honoured?

I thought Stan (who’s currently gone to ground) was in the latter camp, but I shouldn’t answer for him.

If the EU is largely intransigent over the terms of the deal offered to May, but the UK parliament has rejected those terms, and terms agreeable to the UK parliament (whatever such terms might actually be) are rejected by the EU, then what is the right answer if one still supports Leave?

I know the Remainers here will only be satisfied with remaining in the EU, but is it their contention that Leavers should go **** themselves.

Presumably this is Frome’s contention as apparently all Leavers are “****ing idiots”. I’m surprised at Frome here as he’s usually a respectful individual. I guess that’s his passion coming out.
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I voted Remain, and would vote Remain again if there was a second referendum. Not out of a love for the EU, but more out of distrust for what pile of ****e Westminster would land us up with, as has been seen over the last three years. It's different up here, we don't have the huge issue of immigration (where I live has the lowest ethnic population in the UK), taking back control for us would mean giving more power to Holyrood, and Europe is mainly generous with their handouts to businesses and farmers here.

However, I do respect the result of the original referendum, but we have to leave on terms that are favourable to the whole nation, not just the hard-liners who are happy to stick two fingers up to the EU and land us with No-Deal. A Norway or Canada style deal would suit me, would solve the issues of the Irish border and would probably be enough to keep the Union together for another decade or so (it's inevitable that it will break up, unless Brexit turns out to be some wonderful paradise where we are all bathing in gold...). A few tweeks to either of those treaties and I think the majority of us would be happy - not all, but most.

The current impasse must be broken, but I'm ****ed if I know how. Boris is a dangerous man, with Cummings' hand up his arse like a finger puppet, and his appointment has made matters worse in my opinion. I'm hoping some magic fairy drops a perfect deal on his desk and we can get on with our lives and forget this sorry pile of ****e.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
I’m interested...

Is there anybody here that voted Leave that now would only do so if it was not a ‘no deal’ departure?

And...

Is there anybody here that voted Remain that, whilst not in support of a ‘no deal’ departure, believes that the result of the 2016 Referendum should still be honoured?

I thought Stan (who’s currently gone to ground) was in the latter camp, but I shouldn’t answer for him.

If the EU is largely intransigent over the terms of the deal offered to May, but the UK parliament has rejected those terms, and terms agreeable to the UK parliament (whatever such terms might actually be) are rejected by the EU, then what is the right answer if one still supports Leave?

I know the Remainers here will only be satisfied with remaining in the EU, but is it their contention that Leavers should go **** themselves.

Presumably this is Frome’s contention as apparently all Leavers are “****ing idiots”. I’m surprised at Frome here as he’s usually a respectful individual. I guess that’s his passion coming out.
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I can't see us leaving on October 31. I know Boris keeps repeating that, but he has yet to come up with any cunning plan, so I don't see him getting out of the so called Surrender Bill. Then we'll have a GE, probably December. If Boris is wise and does a deal with the Brexit Party, I could see us finally leaving in Feb. I still think with a deal, agreed at the 11th hour
 
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