Off Topic The Politics Thread

[Goldhawk-Road]

I reached the conclusion sometime ago that one of the fundamental differences between somebody on the ‘right’ and somebody of the ‘left’ is that, whilst it is human nature to exhibit some hypocritical traits, the former recognise this in themselves more that the latter.

The Harry & Meghan ****e is no different to Labour’s systematic dismantling of Grammar Schools - aides and abetted, it should be said, by ignorant ‘conservatives’ - whilst ensuring that they get their own kids into the best available schools. Blair and the London Oratory being a decent example.

Totally agree. Want to see the face of a left wing hypocrite. Look at how many properties the Blair's own.

 

[Stroller]

I reached the conclusion sometime ago that one of the fundamental differences between somebody on the ‘right’ and somebody of the ‘left’ is that, whilst it is human nature to exhibit some hypocritical traits, the former recognise this in themselves more that the latter.

The Harry & Meghan ****e is no different to Labour’s systematic dismantling of Grammar Schools - aides and abetted, it should be said, by ignorant ‘conservatives’ - whilst ensuring that they get their own kids into the best available schools. Blair and the London Oratory being a decent example.

I found it fascinating that when Stan reposted that 'political spectrum' test a few weeks back, everybody seemed to find themselves to the left of Ghandi in their stated attitudes. If that were really the case though, they wouldn't be voting for political parties whose actions are in complete contradiction of these attitudes.

 

[Stroller]

Harry and Meghan (I don't know why you keep singling Meghan out, unless you're setting yourself up for a racist claim) lecture us all on carbon footprint, environmental matters etc. If it was that important to them, then they could have one long summer holiday (to cut down the travel) and make it Devon, Cornwall etc. I'd have respect for them if they practiced what they preached.

You don't have to live in Islington to have the Islington, elitist attitude. Your attitude reminds me of support for a feudal lord who rapes the local blacksmith's girl and then throws the family a bag of coins for the privilege. Totally outdated

It's Meghan that the criticism is aimed at, due to her lefty stance and her persuasion of Harry towards it. I have no doubt that there is also a racist element to it.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

I found it fascinating that when Stan reposted that 'political spectrum' test a few weeks back, everybody seemed to find themselves to the left of Ghandi in their stated attitudes. If that were really the case though, they wouldn't be voting for political parties whose actions are in complete contradiction of these attitudes.

Perhaps the test is flawed. I think it is, as it always puts me pretty much bang centre of the spectrum, but we all know I have a funny moustache and jackboots.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

It's Meghan that the criticism is aimed at, due to her lefty stance and her persuasion of Harry towards it. I have no doubt that there is also a racist element to it.

By whom? She just comes across, to me at least, as a bit needy and, well, ‘American’.

 

[Woodyhoopleson]

By whom? She just comes across, to me at least, as a bit needy and, well, ‘American’.

No no, David Lammy said that the hounding of Meghan Markle and her husband was becoming a witch hunt with xenophobic and racist undertones, so we shouldn't criticise them for these 11 flights.

Anyway, like I said, this only proves that the disasterous effects of CO2 damage can be turned around through investment.

 

[Stroller]

Perhaps the test is flawed. I think it is, as it always puts me pretty much bang centre of the spectrum, but we all know I have a funny moustache and jackboots.

It's not necessarily flawed. Perhaps some of the questions relating to the wellbeing of others or the planet as a whole have obvious answers, but that people are much more selfish when it comes to voting for them.

 

[Uber_Hoop]

No no, David Lammy said that the hounding of Meghan Markle and her husband was becoming a witch hunt with xenophobic and racist undertones, so we shouldn't criticise them for these 11 flights.

Anyway, like I said, this only proves that the disasterous effects of CO2 damage can be turned around through investment.

Our efforts are little more than a pimple on an elephant’s bell-end when you look at countries such as China. At least we’ll all feel sanctimonious during the power strikes.

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.c...coal-fired-power-stations-makes-no-sense.html

 

[Uber_Hoop]

It's not necessarily flawed. Perhaps some of the questions relating to the wellbeing of others or the planet as a whole have obvious answers, but that people are much more selfish when it comes to voting for them.

There’s a massive ‘point in time’ element to some of the questions too. Complete the Qs immediately after, say, the banking crisis and many that would consider themselves right-leaning would be forgiven for responding in a more left-of-centre fashion.

Frankly, I also like to think that there is either a misalignment between actual attitudes and how you’re plotted on the Compass, or those on the ‘right’ are actually more caring than those on the ‘left’ would like us to be (as that doesn’t fit their narrative).

 

[Stroller]

There’s a massive ‘point in time’ element to some of the questions too. Complete the Qs immediately after, say, the banking crisis and many that would consider themselves right-leaning would be forgiven for responding in a more left-of-centre fashion.

Frankly, I also like to think that there is either a misalignment between actual attitudes and how you’re plotted on the Compass, or those on the ‘right’ are actually more caring than those on the ‘left’ would like us to be (as that doesn’t fit their narrative).

Or maybe those on the right are just more hypocritical?

 

[Uber_Hoop]

Or maybe those on the right are just more hypocritical?

No, I don’t think so. We just acknowledge it.

 

[Staines R's]

Dripping with hate for Meghan's lefty attitudes - are you paying attention, Uber?

If they're able to offset the effects of their trip by contributing to climate change charities or whatever, fair enough as far as I'm concerned. I'm flying to Spain today for a week's holiday but there's little I'm able to do in terms of offsetting. I do actually contribute to a tree-planting charity, though.

**** me Strolls, that comes across as rather ‘elitist’.....whatever next ?

Soon you’ll be defending Prince Andy ‘cos he donates to kids charities

 

[Stroller]

**** me Strolls, that comes across as rather ‘elitist’.....whatever next ?

Soon you’ll be defending Prince Andy ‘cos he donates to kids charities

How many people choose not to fly because of the carbon effects? Hardly anybody.

How many who do fly, make offsetting charity payments? Not many.

Why criticise someone who does?

I don't care how 'elite' they are, it seems like the wrong target for criticism.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

It's Meghan that the criticism is aimed at, due to her lefty stance and her persuasion of Harry towards it. I have no doubt that there is also a racist element to it.

Not racism, but Hollywood extremely wealthy, precious, hypocritical prima donna-ness. If Harry had married Gwyneth Paltrow, he'd be getting the same criticism. Right now, I wish the pair would **** off to California

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

How many people choose not to fly because of the carbon effects? Hardly anybody.

How many who do fly, make offsetting charity payments? Not many.

Why criticise someone who does?

I don't care how 'elite' they are, it seems like the wrong target for criticism.

4 private planes for holidays in 11 days, on the back of environmental preaching to the rest of us

 

[Staines R's]

How many people choose not to fly because of the carbon effects? Hardly anybody.

How many who do fly, make offsetting charity payments? Not many.

Why criticise someone who does?

I don't care how 'elite' they are, it seems like the wrong target for criticism.

I would expect that most that fly, don’t go harping on to the media about how we ALL have to change our ways to save the planet, while doing what the **** we want anyway ‘cos we’re rich.......that’s just hypocritical

 

[Stroller]

I would expect that most that fly, don’t go harping on to the media about how we ALL have to change our ways to save the planet, while doing what the **** we want anyway ‘cos we’re rich.......that’s just hypocritical

Or maybe people can feel better about their own lack of action by pointing at famous people who they deem to be hypocritical.

 

[Staines R's]

Or maybe people can feel better about their own lack of action by pointing at famous people who they deem to be hypocritical.

Doesn’t make the rich and famous any less hypocritical.

 

[DT’s Socks]

The tweet from Wells says it all for me. Harry and Meghan are all about "do as we say, not do as we do". The fact that they break their own rules and then use their wealth, or their fabulously rich friends' wealth, in an act of atonement still stinks. I could see them becoming increasingly unpopular.

And speaking of unpopular, take a bow the Nonse Duke of York, Prince Andrew who clearly has an interest in underage girls and their abusers. Are we supposed to look up to ****s like that? Those in the Royal Family who behave and do good work must be spitting at the damage to reputation.

Checkout the CIA/FBI case on Mountbatten plus how the SAS were involved in hit squads on the innocent on the box tonight

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Checkout the CIA/FBI case on Mountbatten plus how the SAS were involved in hit squads on the innocent on the box tonight

I'll look out for it. I can't see it scheduled on progs 1-5