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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
We can all have a wee giggle at mistakes , Abbott's are a bit like bloopers from the TV programme whilst others effect people's lives like Grayling as I mentioned before and more importantly like May thinking she's on noel Edmonds deal or no deal. But a bit of Corbyn distraction usually does the trick to occupy peoples minds.
So how does Abbotts actions not affect lives?
 
So how does Abbotts actions not affect lives?
Because she's not in power fella. Shes just a shadow secretary, for example, her figures on policing didnt really matter did it? It only affected her credibility with figures and maybe had a slight negative affect on her party. Didnt effect me or you did it?
 
You misunderstand ellers. I said I wonder why the news of the threats and abuse Abbott received hadn't reached yourself or many more. Didn't ask you if you thought Chris grayling was a muppet or not, that answer is obvious.
No, I understand. My point is that I mock Abbott/Corbyn/May/Grayling and many others. If they do something stupid then I will mock, especially as they are people in positions of power which affects all our lives.
As for the racial abuse of Abbott, I genuinely didn't know about that. If I had I would not have compared her to LB.
 
No, I understand. My point is that I mock Abbott/Corbyn/May/Grayling and many others. If they do something stupid then I will mock, especially as they are people in positions of power which affects all our lives.
As for the racial abuse of Abbott, I genuinely didn't know about that. If I had I would not have compared her to LB.
That's fair enough. Good to hear you are consistent in your mocking
 
Because she's not in power fella. Shes just a shadow secretary, for example, her figures on policing didnt really matter did it? It only affected her credibility with figures and maybe had a slight negative affect on her party. Didnt effect me or you did it?
You don't think her position as an MP affects peoples lives? For example think about the voting she does? think about the Laws that her and fellow politicians get through the house? That is just the start of it.
 
You don't think her position as an MP affects peoples lives? For example think about the voting she does? think about the Laws that her and fellow politicians get through the house? That is just the start of it.
Point taken, what laws would be described as worthy of piss taking/mocking that she has helped pass? I thought we didnt have control of our own laws being a member of the EU
 
Point taken, what laws would be described as worthy of piss taking/mocking that she has helped pass? I thought we didnt have control of our own laws being a member of the EU
Come on bob you're being silly now. Did she not vote to trigger article 50?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nt-jeremy-corbyn-shadow-cabinet-a7570441.html
As I said MP's affect our lives, although saying something stupid on Question Time doesn't but it makes you think about her ability?
 
Come on bob you're being silly now. Did she not vote to trigger article 50?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...nt-jeremy-corbyn-shadow-cabinet-a7570441.html
As I said MP's affect our lives, although saying something stupid on Question Time doesn't but it makes you think about her ability?
I'm not being silly, just repeating your own words and then asking for an example. I just dont quite understand how she votes on laws when apparently we dont have control of our own laws. Doesnt quite make sense, dont you agree. At least we agreed about her mistakes not affecting our lives, just her credibility.
 
Which would be ironic because she voted for Article 50 and the default is 'No deal' which I think you described once as irresponsible? (I think you said it a while back)? So if May's fudge fails she could have helped to deliver a 'no deal'?
So really she does affect us all.
 
Which would be ironic because she voted for Article 50 and the default is 'No deal' which I think you described once as irresponsible? (I think you said it a while back)? So if May's fudge fails she could have helped to deliver a 'no deal'?
So really she does affect us all.
I think you may have mistaken me for someone else regarding describing her as irresponsible. I've never spoken about her voting for article 50, I dont even know if she did or she didnt. I presume she did though.
 
I'm not being silly, just repeating your own words and then asking for an example. I just dont quite understand how she votes on laws when apparently we dont have control of our own laws. Doesnt quite make sense, dont you agree. At least we agreed about her mistakes not affecting our lives, just her credibility.
I don't understand your comment "when apparently we don't have control of our own laws"? Is that a joke from what 'leavers' we're saying? I don't think I ever said that, although I probably said something like "the EU interfering in our laws". I think you are getting confused with the courts of justice maybe?
 
I think you may have mistaken me for someone else regarding describing her as irresponsible. I've never spoken about her voting for article 50, I dont even know if she did or she didnt. I presume she did though.
Just to clarify it was regarding the UK leaving with a 'No deal"
 
I don't understand your comment "when apparently we don't have control of our own laws"? Is that a joke from what 'leavers' we're saying? I don't think I ever said that, although I probably said something like "the EU interfering in our laws". I think you are getting confused with the courts of justice maybe?
I haven't accused you of saying it. The leave campaign said it. Take back control of our money, borders and laws. I didnt realise it was just supposed to be a joke. So we had control over our laws all this time then? Blimey
 
So you said it was okay to leave with a no deal? Just to clarify because I have this weird memory about certain posts. I wouldn't want to mis-quote you.
No i never said it was okay to leave with no deal. Please read again. You said that I may have called Abbott irresponsible for voting on article 50. I then replied that you have mistaken me for someone else.
 
Which would be ironic because she voted for Article 50 and the default is 'No deal' which I think you described once as irresponsible? (I think you said it a while back)? So if May's fudge fails she could have helped to deliver a 'no deal'?
So really she does affect us all.

Jesus Ellers, you're being ridiculous. Was it Abbott's idea to trigger Article 50 or May's? I have no idea if Abbott voted it for it or not, but it wouldn't have made any difference either way.