Off Topic The Politics Thread

[KPDHoopster]

No, but they are for civil servants who actually do the work, and it’s about the ease of trade and consumer satisfaction, ultimately.

Seriously, there are much more important things you could highlight about the EU which are seriously wrong and I wouldn’t have a leg to stand on - the € for example, it will never make sense to have a monetary union without a fiscal union which really would change the nature of national sovereignty. The way it works now is great for Germany, but no one else. Or the way the EU Parliament works, which is just a farce.

It’s why I said I like the idea of the EU but not in all cases the practice.

What would Frank Costello say?

Ah, but that's why they chose monetary union first, to fool the other countries in joining, then due to limitations, enforce fiscal union, once they were signed up !!

Signed, sealed and delivered United states of Europe

And that's why the UK, MUST escape ASAP !!!

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

A lot more immigrants work outside the NHS than inside it. The UK can only guess at any figures because of years of lack of funding to the border controls and the inland services tasked with tracking down illegal immigrants

Any Brexiteer that voted leave because of immigration is frankly a very stupid person
The associated link between Immigrants and Europe is totally wrong ... you have eaten the wrong porridge

Immigration is completely sustainable with the right resource to manage it ... it has been poorly managed and funded and frankly no one cared anyway so in true AS fashion they blame all social problems on immigrants and then hook that somehow into Europe

You open up a shop don’t complain who enters it and if you have no store security then well what would anyone expect?

Plus painting a picture that immigrants are just freeloaders looking to breed here is a utter disgrace imo ... for every one immigrant I could show you 25 lazy cheating English workshy ****s fleecing the system on the black

About time more people looked inwards at the UK and what it is today ****ing Brexit won’t solve any of that crap

Brexit slogan to take control of our borders
Now even having the decency to admit control was sold out and lost ourselves ... best blame the EU then

Made in England by English People

Blame Culture ****s

You may not like mention of the fact that young immigrants come here and start families, but it's fact. And that needs to be born in mind when people say, the migrants work in the NHS but don't use it. That's a false argument and as you say in your first sentence, many more immigrants work outside the NHS than work in it.

No one sensible blames immigrants. Voters look to government for a sustainable policy. Government will be accountable for all immigration after the end of next March.

 

[ELLERS]

I have just seen the funniest headline and nearly choked on my cup of tea.
"How France wants to become a Teck giant"
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They still use cheques in the supermarkets!
I won't mention the banking where I paid in £300 and it took 20 minutes with 3 different people passing around paper and stapling it. I am not joking.

 

[bobmid]

Are you sure you didn’t make that up Bob ?
If not then it’s very sad that you have to work with such thick ****s.

Nope I wish I had made it up. He seems like the sort of lad you might have to deal with on a drunken Saturday night mate. He is a decorator on a job I'm on and I **** you not, those were his words. That's the sad thing about.

 

[bobmid]

You may not like mention of the fact that young immigrants come here and start families, but it's fact. And that needs to be born in mind when people say, the migrants work in the NHS but don't use it. That's a false argument and as you say in your first sentence, many more immigrants work outside the NHS than work in it.

No one sensible blames immigrants. Voters look to government for a sustainable policy. Government will be accountable for all immigration after the end of next March.

Government should be accountable now though mate. If they followed procedure then any not working and paying in to the system could have been removed after 3 months.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

You may not like mention of the fact that young immigrants come here and start families, but it's fact. And that needs to be born in mind when people say, the migrants work in the NHS but don't use it. That's a false argument and as you say in your first sentence, many more immigrants work outside the NHS than work in it.

No one sensible blames immigrants. Voters look to government for a sustainable policy. Government will be accountable for all immigration after the end of next March.

Why would he not like to mention it? It’s a positive. We, like most developed nations, have a serious issue with an ageing population. We need more young people and we need them to pump out kids.

 

[Staines R's]

Nope I wish I had made it up. He seems like the sort of lad you might have to deal with on a drunken Saturday night mate. He is a decorator on a job I'm on and I **** you not, those were his words. That's the sad thing about.

I know the sort you mean mate, the ones who really should of been put down years ago.
Very sad.

 

[Stroller]

You may not like mention of the fact that young immigrants come here and start families, but it's fact. And that needs to be born in mind when people say, the migrants work in the NHS but don't use it. That's a false argument and as you say in your first sentence, many more immigrants work outside the NHS than work in it.

No one sensible blames immigrants. Voters look to government for a sustainable policy. Government will be accountable for all immigration after the end of next March.

It's a fact that EU immigrants have a positive impact on our economy, but then facts weren't a big part of the referendum campaign, were they?

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Why would he not like to mention it? It’s a positive. We, like most developed nations, have a serious issue with an ageing population. We need more young people and we need them to pump out kids.

We take in the city the size of Birmingham every three years. Multiply that by a factor to represent expanding families. How big do you want our population? 100 million? 200 million? Should there be an upper limit in you view?

 

[bobmid]

I know the sort you mean mate, the ones who really should of been put down years ago.
Very sad.

It is sad but the deprived area where the builds are really struggle on a day to day basis. Even the local primary school resembles a prison. Gangs of kids on the streets instead of in education, boarded up houses. Smack heads laying on pavements....welcome to Great Britain

 

[bobmid]

We take in the city the size of Birmingham every three years. Multiply that by a factor to represent expanding families. How big do you want our population? 100 million? 200 million? Should there be an upper limit in you view?

How many of those are non EU?
Like I say, government could do something IF they chose to.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

How many of those are non EU?

Just over half

 

[ELLERS]

oh crap another project fear prediction for a 'No deal" just in from Kent... 10,000 lorries stuck on roads (why don't they make it 100,000... wait for it... Put school meals at risk . Not to forget that the toilets will stop working?
We will have to do like the French and crap in the garden.

 

[Staines R's]

It is sad but the deprived area where the builds are really struggle on a day to day basis. Even the local primary school resembles a prison. Gangs of kids on the streets instead of in education, boarded up houses. Smack heads laying on pavements....welcome to Great Britain

I’m afraid every country in the world has ****holes like that mate, even DTs beloved France

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

We take in the city the size of Birmingham every three years. Multiply that by a factor to represent expanding families. How big do you want our population? 100 million? 200 million? Should there be an upper limit in you view?

As big as it needs to be to sustain our ageing existing population. We aren’t particularly densely populated.

The population has gone up by about a quarter in half a century. It’s really not as rapid as the Mail scaremongerers would have us believe.

 

[bobmid]

I’m afraid every country in the world has ****holes like that mate, even DTs beloved France

I know I've been

 

[Staines R's]

oh crap another project fear prediction for a 'No deal" just in from Kent... 10,000 lorries stuck on roads (why don't they make it 100,000... wait for it... Put school meals at risk . Not to forget that the toilets will stop working?
We will have to do like the French and crap in the garden.

French students don’t worry about school dinners.....they are too busy burning the school down, as happened today.
Sacre Merde !!!

 

[bobmid]

oh crap another project fear prediction for a 'No deal" just in from Kent... 10,000 lorries stuck on roads (why don't they make it 100,000... wait for it... Put school meals at risk . Not to forget that the toilets will stop working?
We will have to do like the French and crap in the garden.

Let's hope it doesn't happen. Could do with some optimistic scenarios but they seem a tad scarce wouldn't you agree

 

[ELLERS]

Let's hope it doesn't happen. Could do with some optimistic scenarios but they seem a tad scarce wouldn't you agree

Are you discussing scenarios or forecasts? 1-0 and you probably don't even understand the reply?

 

[ELLERS]

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Yes, Remoaners, you’re right. Leave voters *were* lied to.

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