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why does anyone care about tommy
if you dont like him stop putting him in the headlines
investigations because of selfies ffs
what has become of the coumtry
It's already at the tipping point, only a matter of how long. Both atmospheric pollution and waste pollution is changing the planet and continuing it at the present rate will make large areas uninhabitable in this century...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...ting-climate-change-place-sooner-thought.html
Two arseholes for the price of one...
stop giving them reasons for airtime
then than they can both fade away to obscurity
who is katie hopkins anyway
and why did steven/tommy change his name
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This represents the over clever lost generation idiots of course people are people no real hate involved I guarantee this lot will all change their minds
Absolutely.
There is clearly some climate change happening right now. I think the question is how much of it is being caused by man?
I'm sure we're contributing, but following the disastrous 'hockey stick' report a few years back, which virtually predicted Countries being under water by now, I remain open minded.
However, the plastic problem is clear for all to see and we must tackle that and clean up the oceans.
Just banned plastic bags here
I know they are serious about the problem of single use plastic when they ban water bottles
I know they are serious about the problem of single use plastic when they ban water bottles
It’s a gamble Col. We know that the Earth can generate massive climate change on its own, without our help. Something serious is happening now just by looking at the ice at the Poles.
Whether or not it’s caused by human activity I can’t see what we have to lose by switching from finite, dirty forms of energy production to infinite, renewable, clean forms (which we will have to do one day when the coal and oil runs out). Similarly switching from polluting, unrecycable materials which are expensive and dirty to make to recyclable ones seems to be a no brainer to me. These things will just give us nicer, sustainable environments to live in, regardless of impact on climate change. The argument against is only about cost and inconvenience, maintaining powerful vested interests, and not caring about the kind of place future generations have to live in.
If current climate change is man made (and I’m inclined to believe it is), I suspect it’s too late to do much about it. Effective action would require fast, effective, expensive global action which has never happened in the past and which I see no sign of happening in the future. The most likely way we can make a positive impact is through a massive worldwide economic recession which cuts energy use and production of crap.
Still, in the grand scheme of things it doesn’t really matter. The Earth will recover, change, whatever, regardless of what we do to it or what it does to itself. It’s just a temporary thing that we have a global climate that suits humans anyway, we know that we are in a little gap between ice ages already, and the world has been a lot warmer than it is now in the past, entirely naturally. Humans will be gone at some stage, just like every other species except cockroaches.
So for me it boils down to whether we want a cleaner, more sustainable planet to live on for ourselves and immediate future generations, which might also deliver some positives for climate change, or whether we can’t be arsed. Easy call for me.
The interesting thing was the end question about still voting Brexit and they all said yes and summed it up brilliantly.
Two things about this second vote rubbish (which will never happen).
1. Leave voters will still vote leave whereas some remain voters have changed their mind an example is a mate of mine who voted remain and now thinks we should just get on with it. There is also a growing movement in the commons. An MP is just about to talk on TV has now changed from remain to Leave.
2. Think how we would be treatd? Most importantly we have triggered article 50. In the EU's eyes we have left and would have to rejoin. They would make us take the disastrous Euro and join schengen according to a EU official just last week.
No chance.... However unless the EU change their tune I can see this heading for a no deal. I also still think May was an idiot for saying Chequers or nothing.
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She won't get through with that. Tomorrow she is going to be told by tories that she needs to do a Canada++++++++++----------+++xxxxxxxxxx++++ Deal.
She'll be gone before Christmas if she tries to get that deal done...
I think Stroller is just trying to wind people up with most of that post however one part could be correct. May needs to drop this obsession with Chequers. DUP has said exactly what they want, ERG has said what they want and I now hear the Tory remoaners are setting up a rival group. SNP won't support. Labour are playing political games with the dreadful Corbyn and the EU won't accept the deal. May is in a bit of a pickle. If she doesn't change we will either come out with 'No Deal' or she will be gone as you said before Christmas.
It doesn't help that the EU are trying everything to keep us in or split up the UK. Those gangsters won't win as public opinion will go against them if they try to play hard ball. Notice they are coming out with the usual line..."It was the UK that wanted to leave not us"....They need to accept it.
Chequers is basically tieing us to EU laws and a Customs Union Lite without the membership benefits, how that can be sold as an acceptable deal is frankly ludicrous. The fact that May was a remainer who kept her head below the parapet during the campaigning to steal the leadership when Cameron disappeared to count his money means she had no clear strategy from the start other than to dither and then call the election when she was already pissing everyone off. She is without doubt the worst post-war Prime Minister by a country mile as every decision she makes is the wrong one at the wrong time. She seems set to confirm that again in the next week...
Yes I have just heard the news. She is too weak to lead and we need to get rid. The Tories and the country won't stand for her sell out.
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The fact she campaigned for remain meant it was never going to end well. A lot of leavers were always going to think she hadn't gone far enough and many remainers would always think she'd gone too far. Personally I think she's been too much of a control freak for her own good - Whitehall has been paralysed at times due to her not wanting to make a decision but not letting anyone else make one either.
I know exactly how complicated this process is having worked on it for two years but some bold decision making would have helped at times as well letting everyone get on with their jobs. theres been none of that because she's been trying, and failing, to please all sides - or not piss them off too much.
I read that Cadbury owners paid no corporation tax here last year either..Just think if these companies paid what were due then we may not have to make so many cuts, or there could be more money for housing, social care, nhs etc etc. It really is disgraceful