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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
They’ve shown her more respect than her colleagues. Would we be all nice and cuddly towards Barnier if he was in as weak a position?
But they are entitled to call her names because they believe they are right and that telling them that it's take it or leave it was the right thing to do. I think that's the curious justification for all this jingoistic outrage. I don't recall any EU politician calling her a weak bitch but if I'm wrong on that no doubt Ellers will remind me who copied his choice of words for her.
 
Although I sort of agree with Sb that 'trenches are dug', sometimes you have to put allegiances aside and smell the coffee. I don't care if it was Corbyn/Abbot or (whoever is in charge of the Liberals)? You don't treat the PM like that.
As for the EU? Time and time again we are finding out just how crooked they are and yet we still have people worshiping them. <doh>
Yeah sure. I look forward to you making good on that when they do get elected by not calling them every name under the sun.
 
If the people of Northern Ireland vote for a united Ireland then it should happen. Whilst the majority don't want it, it stays part of the UK.
Not sure what point you're making.

How do they get the chance to vote for a united Ireland? Polling suggests that post-Brexit (if it happens) NI would be in favour of re-unification.

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Yeah sure. I look forward to you making good on that when they do get elected by not calling them every name under the sun.
Bloody hell your posting a lot tonight.... shame it's the usual remoaner crap. :emoticon-0148-yes:
I would respond but you are sounding as boring as some bloke in the pub tonight and I can't be bothered.
 
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You act like you’re surprised that people like that treat others disrespectfully.
It’s what they are......it’s what they do.
The political elite have been doing it for years and it ain’t gonna change anytime soon.
okay maybe you can enlighten me... when did the last UK Prime Minister ever act like that? When did you ever see Davis who was our negotiator act like that?
Truth is you didn't/won't. There is a certain etiquette that decent heads of states have (and don't act like muppets).
Anyone who believes the EU acted appropriately, really does need to think a bit harder.
 
okay maybe you can enlighten me... when did the last UK Prime Minister ever act like that? When did you ever see Davis who was our negotiator act like that?
Truth is you didn't/won't. There is a certain etiquette that decent heads of states have (and don't act like muppets).
Anyone who believes the EU acted appropriately, really does need to think a bit harder.
Do you really give that much of a **** Ellers? Everyone has been slagging her, you more than most! Who cares if it's a head of state or another politician (even in her own ranks). Sometimes it's quite refreshing to hear people say what they think though hey? I personally couldn't give a flying **** who says what about her
 
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okay maybe you can enlighten me... when did the last UK Prime Minister ever act like that? When did you ever see Davis who was our negotiator act like that?
Truth is you didn't/won't. There is a certain etiquette that decent heads of states have (and don't act like muppets).
Anyone who believes the EU acted appropriately, really does need to think a bit harder.

Is it just Tusk's 'cherries' tweet that all the spluttering rage is about, or have I missed something? Admittedly it was a bit silly, but I wouldn't have said it was particularly important in the grand scheme of things.
 
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okay maybe you can enlighten me... when did the last UK Prime Minister ever act like that? When did you ever see Davis who was our negotiator act like that?
Truth is you didn't/won't. There is a certain etiquette that decent heads of states have (and don't act like muppets).
Anyone who believes the EU acted appropriately, really does need to think a bit harder.

Ellers are you seriously telling me that the political elite treat each other with respect and courtesy ?
If you think that then you’re as mad as a box of frogs.
I wasn’t just talking about the EU I was talking about ALL politicians...from all nations.....they are all a bunch of ****s.....ours included.
 
Ellers are you seriously telling me that the political elite treat each other with respect and courtesy ?
If you think that then you’re as mad as a box of frogs.
I wasn’t just talking about the EU I was talking about ALL politicians...from all nations.....they are all a bunch of ****s.....ours included.
Bang on staines
 
Ellers are you seriously telling me that the political elite treat each other with respect and courtesy ?
If you think that then you’re as mad as a box of frogs.
I wasn’t just talking about the EU I was talking about ALL politicians...from all nations.....they are all a bunch of ****s.....ours included.
You are sounding like Alf Garnett Staines.
 
Do you really give that much of a **** Ellers? Everyone has been slagging her, you more than most! Who cares if it's a head of state or another politician (even in her own ranks). Sometimes it's quite refreshing to hear people say what they think though hey? I personally couldn't give a flying **** who says what about her

There is a code of diplomacy between nations, Bob. If you're about to declare war, then political leaders can send insulting tweets to other countries and call foreigners liars. But if you want a future relationship, abide by normal practices of civility among diplomats.

The tetchy responses that came from the EU do seem to be as a result of irritation at having to deal with Brexit, when the EU has so many other problems, particularly illegal immigration and the rise of the far right all across Europe. They see the UK as bailing out, even though the problems have to a substantial extent, been created by the EU itself by weak, unpragmatic and over-liberal policies.
 
Is it just Tusk's 'cherries' tweet that all the spluttering rage is about, or have I missed something? Admittedly it was a bit silly, but I wouldn't have said it was particularly important in the grand scheme of things.
Macron called the Brexit politicians 'liars'. Now I know you and many others will agree with that but you don't say it at the Brexit meeting with the British PM.

It appears whatever I say on this will fall on deaf ears so lets just agree to disagree. Let anarchy rule.
 
There is a code of diplomacy between nations, Bob. If you're about to declare war, then political leaders can send insulting tweets to other countries and call foreigners liars. But if you want a future relationship, abide by normal practices of civility among diplomats.

The tetchy responses that came from the EU do seem to be as a result of irritation at having to deal with Brexit, when the EU has so many other problems, particularly illegal immigration and the rise of the far right all across Europe. They see the UK as bailing out, even though the problems have to a substantial extent, been created by the EU itself by weak, unpragmatic and over-liberal policies.

I not going to bother with them anymore. They really don't get it. Raab summed it up on Andrew Marr Show today. I will post what he said. He was spot on. maybe some on here should listen to what he says and take it on board
 
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I not going to bother with them anymore. They really don't get it. Raab summed it up on Andrew Marr Show today. I will post what he said. He was spot on. maybe some on here should listen to what he says and take it on board

Yes, we know domestic politics can be pretty uncivil and the media can be as rude about foreign rulers as they like. But there is a code of etiquette between national leaders and their respective civil services, because if one leader insults another country's leader, they are insulting the whole of that country.
 
Yes, we know domestic politics can be pretty uncivil and the media can be as rude about foreign rulers as they like. But there is a code of etiquette between national leaders and their respective civil services, because if one leader insults another country's leader, they are insulting the whole of that country.

It was a silly tweet, Goldie. Nothing more. I sure as hell wasn't insulted by it and don't see why anyone else should be.
 
They told her Chequers was rubbish. Isn't that what you lot and the arch remainers were all saying? And yet because she's a woman they should have said something different? Explain that logic to me without the emotive overreaction and indignation.

I never mentioned anything about May being a woman. I did say that she's been awful. I was referring to the disrespect of our PM.

It's simple. Your point I agree with. But it was a hypothetical situation. How do the people of Northern Ireland get to decide.

Presumably with a referendum.
 
It was a silly tweet, Goldie. Nothing more. I sure as hell wasn't insulted by it and don't see why anyone else should be.

I wouldn't expect you to be insulted by it, Strolls. You're a diehard Remainer and I'm surprised you're not complaining it wasn't stronger! But when an unelected EU bureaucrat sends out a humiliating, even mildly humiliating, tweet about a national leader, there will be consequences. I think the consequences will be that it has hardened attitudes with the UK against the EU. We'll see. It certainly doesn't help solve the knotty problems of Northern Ireland and future trade. May has no more compromises to make, so if the EU remains inflexible, there won't be a deal and it's then a case of managing the impact of transition to WTO
 
Is it just Tusk's 'cherries' tweet that all the spluttering rage is about, or have I missed something? Admittedly it was a bit silly, but I wouldn't have said it was particularly important in the grand scheme of things.


I do find it rather amusing that you of all people should criticise the "spluttering rage" when you have been crying your eyes out with indignant rage ever since we voted to leave,
 
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It was a silly tweet, Goldie. Nothing more. I sure as hell wasn't insulted by it and don't see why anyone else should be.

A 'silly tweet like what Trump does but you all start moaning about that? "isn't that okay"? "Isn't that how they act"?
Quickly let's have a demonstration and fly a blimp!
Double standards as per usual.
 
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