Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
That cryptocrap has gone up again. 1 bitcoin is worth £8189.75 British Pound.
I wish I had invested in 2010 as 1 coin was worth 10p.
So if my maths is correct and I had invested £10 today it would be worth £818.975k or £8M if i invested £100.
Thanks all you financial ITK!
 
Positive developments on Irish border, apparently we have put forward a proposal that doesn’t involve magical time travelling elves running computers. Northern Ireland to have devolved powers to ensure its regulations ‘converge’ with Ireland’s, ie the EUs, post Brexit. EU agrees that the details can’t be worked out until trade deal sorted. Depends on their being a functioning Northern Irish government, and for that government to implement in line with the agreement. Interesting to see what the DUP thinks of this. Presumably it means some kind of border between the rest of the U.K. and NI, but hopefully not.

Looking better.

Meanwhile Trump and his idiot team claim that is doesn’t matter if what he says is true, or videos that he tweets are fake, as long as it supports his opinion and makes the point he wants made. If this wasn’t actually happening you wouldn’t believe it.
 
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sb_73 said:
Positive developments on Irish border, apparently we have put forward a proposal that doesn’t involve magical time travelling elves running computers. Northern Ireland to have devolved powers to ensure its regulations ‘converge’ with Ireland’s, ie the EUs, post Brexit. EU agrees that the details can’t be worked out until trade deal sorted. Depends on their being a functioning Northern Irish government, and for that government to implement in line with the agreement. Interesting to see what the DUP thinks of this. Presumably it means some kind of border between the rest of the U.K. and NI, but hopefully not.

Looking better.

Meanwhile Trump and his idiot team claim that is doesn’t matter if what he says is true, or videos that he tweets are fake, as long as it supports his opinion and makes the point he wants made. If this wasn’t actually happening you wouldn’t believe it.
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I'd say May has got this tweet thing about right. She's said it was wrong for Trump to retweet something from a far-right organisation which is designed to bring division. She's ignored Corbynite demands to cancel Trump's visit to the UK, because if it was stopped 1. We'd be the only country in the world apart from North Korea not to extend him a welcome, and 2. He comes as President of the US, our most important ally, and not as Joe Trump the individual, 3. It's in both countries interests to get closer on trade, so use the relationship to tell Trump when we think he's wrong - don't ban him from the UK as Labour's pompous Lady Nugee seems to be suggesting
 
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GoldhawkRoad said:
I'd say May has got this tweet thing about right. She's said it was wrong for Trump to retweet something from a far-right organisation which is designed to bring division. She's ignored Corbynite demands to cancel Trump's visit to the UK, because if it was stopped 1. We'd be the only country in the world apart from North Korea not to extend him a welcome, and 2. He comes as President of the UK, our most important ally, and not as Joe Trump the individual, 3. It's in both countries interests to get closer on trade, so use the relationship to tell Trump when we think he's wrong - don't ban him from the UK as Labour's pompous Lady Nugee seems to be suggesting
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No need to ban him from the country (although inciting racial hatred might be a justification to do so), but there should be no state visit - why inflict him on the Queen? If May wants to invite him for a game of golf, fine. We can all line up to chuck eggs at him.
 
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I'd say May has got this tweet thing about right. She's said it was wrong for Trump to retweet something from a far-right organisation which is designed to bring division. She's ignored Corbynite demands to cancel Trump's visit to the UK, because if it was stopped 1. We'd be the only country in the world apart from North Korea not to extend him a welcome, and 2. He comes as President of the UK, our most important ally, and not as Joe Trump the individual, 3. It's in both countries interests to get closer on trade, so use the relationship to tell Trump when we think he's wrong - don't ban him from the UK as Labour's pompous Lady Nugee seems to be suggesting
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For me it’s about a bit more than ‘what does it mean for the UK’. Your argument sounds a bit like our approach to ‘human rights’ with the Chinese and Saudis. Let’s get really close and trade a lot, so we can have stern words with them behind closed doors. It doesn’t work with them and it certainly won’t with Trump, his world consists of himself. The only thing holding him back is Congress, which is pretty flaky as well, the judiciary, and senior military officers. I don’t think we, or any other country, has any influence over him, or ever will, except in the way that he believes the last thing he heard, whatever the source.

We certainly want him gone before getting in trade agreements with the US. His objectives are explicit - what’s in it for us, **** everyone else.
 
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I see some people's favourite negotiator has come out with more anit-UK bollocks. He reckons the UK is walking away from the battle against IS by leaving the EU. He said that, rather than staying should to shoulder, the UK has chosen to be on their own again. Good grief, what a prat.

Our Intelligence services lead the World in anti-terrorism, especially on-line terror and we are active in Syria. France has some good Special Forces, particularly the one attached to the police, but their Intelligence Service is renowned for being chaotic and terrible at sharing information etc. None of the Intelligence Services in the EU come close to ours.

The UK have made it clear that we will continue to share intelligence with the EU and quite frankly, they'd be ****ed without us!
 
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