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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    I like his 19th-century views. :1980_boogie_down:
     
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    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Spot on.
     
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    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Heaven forbid you would believe something from Wiki?
     
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    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    In fairness, he does put the ‘fun’ into fundamentalist.



    And the ‘mentalist’.
     
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  5. Lawrence Jacoby

    Lawrence Jacoby Well-Known Member

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    I am not sure it's fair to judge a man by his own faith. Looks like a bloke who can focus on a task to me

    When a man is open and expresses his opinions he gets my attention because there is no need for him to do that

    Prefer that any day to a person who hides their beliefs away and reads off a script
     
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  6. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12 Forum Moderator

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    Sorry I have a different view LJ....I am none-too-keen on a person who wouldfight against abortion for a rape victim, a person who would stop two people in love getting married.
    A man who can bend the (parlimentary) rules when it suits him to his own gain....but will prevent ordinary people getting on with their lives.


    I strongly feel the repression of human rights. I hope the expression of my views on this matter has caught your attention.


    (PS...I can really focus on tasks, its part of my Aspergers spectrum , it doesn't mean I would be any good at government...I wouldn't)
     
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  7. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Says vern

    All truckdrivers should stand for parliament
     
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  8. Lawrence Jacoby

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    Hi Beth respect your opinion but I have to point out that Rees Mogg at no point claimed he wanted to over turn current U.K. laws on abortion

    He believes that life is generated on conception. The scenario given to him by Piers Morgan was that a women was raped by a fellow family member. He concluded that the law is in place to protect situations like the one given so to me he fully understands and respects the law of the land

    On same sex religious marriages I am with him anyway simply because religions haven’t really got that in their historical mandate so a bolt on to me dilutes any religion however ancient . Nothing against same sex partnerships or using the word marriage but in many cases throughout religion there have been specific records against same sex sexual relationships

    To me therefore it’s clear keep the two things separate: religion and same sex unions they shouldn’t mix imo . If love conquers the boundaries of anyone’s faith then I respect its their decision and can have an alternative but they should never be allowed to re-write religion to suit themselves .. it’s the devil working imo

    I also can’t see a man like this Rees Mogg bending any rules as he certainly appears transparent and honest to me. I am not aligned currently with the tories and their current management but this bloke seems light years ahead to me

    About time people looked at albility to task rather than their personal profile

    I would certainly buy a car from Rees Mogg no question
     
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  9. Stroller

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    If he lets his religious views affect how he votes as an MP, he shouldn't be an MP, let alone Prime Minister, in my opinion. He's not light years ahead. On the contrary, his views are decades - if not centuries - behind. Perhaps he should be a used car salesman.
     
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  10. Lawrence Jacoby

    Lawrence Jacoby Well-Known Member

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    Well of course if is a big word but you are right of course in that scenario he could choose a cabinet aligned with his views. He seems open to me and I believe if the public wanted a return to values and traditions then a forward thinking open honest person to me would appear light years ahead because that exactly what this country needs to change the perception of political office
     
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    The 'if' was superfluous. He does vote based on religious doctrine. He might be open and honest, but forward thinking - really?
     
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    I don't like some of the views of WR-M one iota, and certainly don't think he should act on his religious views in his role as MP unless it is clear that the rest of the country (and by that, I don't mean just the views of the ones who voted for the government and feel they "won", I mean the whole country) agrees.

    Will the non-dom, oligarch-owned media moguls permit their outlets to support WR-M and his views, I wonder? Or will they be consistent and crucify him in the way they did Tim Farron?
     
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  13. Lawrence Jacoby

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    Well there you go
    I very much doubt if I would ever vote for the cons and even their voters can’t do much more than grab straws

    Rees Mogg looks to me the most honest of a dreadful bunch that somehow got into power and now have to deliver for the entire nation
     
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  14. Lawrence Jacoby

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    Well he seems equipped as I said to take on the media and in contrast to Boris he hasn’t mentioned any dead bodies ... talk about bad taste and view points
     
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    WRM hasn’t a clue or a chance to be a PM.
     
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  16. Lawrence Jacoby

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    Thank you for your help on this matter
     
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    Maybe cos he's dead?
     
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    Excellent take-down of Blo-Jo by some American woman on QT, whilst Damian Green pathetically tries to defend his crass Libya comments.
     
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    I'm always distrustful of religious nut jobs that claim life is sacred - then like those nuns in Ireland - treat the resultant child so appallingly bad that many die in childhood and get buried in unmarked graves. Probably to punish the sins of the parent.
     
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  20. West London Willy

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    The situation you describe is heinous, but I don’t think that JRM, or 99.999999% of those who say they are religious, would ever do such things. It’s a bit disingenuous to lump everyone in together...
     
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